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Saturday, August 15, 2015 8:22 AM




And he will be roundly attacked and dismissed by the wing-nut neo-conservatives here. Mark my words.

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Saturday, August 15, 2015 7:20 PM

The Republicans need to explain a chart showing the average rate of economic growth under each president since the Second World War.
www.princeton.edu/~mwatson/papers/Presidents_Blinder_Watson_Nov2013.pd
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Princeton University economists Alan Blinder and Mark Watson note that when a Democrat was in the Oval Office, the average rate of growth was 4.4 percent. Under Republicans, the average rate was just 2.5 percent.

It's not just broad measures of economic growth, either, Blinder and Watson observe. Industrial production increased at an average rate of 5.6 percent under Democrats, compared to 1.8 percent under Republicans. The unemployment rate under Republicans averaged 6 percent, compared to just 5.6 percent under Democrats. The average return on the stock market has been 8.1 percent under Democrats, and 2.7 percent under Republicans.

You might be thinking that even if the economy as a whole does worse under Republican presidents, the wealthy do better, since Republicans tend to favor low-tax policies on the wealthy. That's not true either, though. As the political scientist Larry Bartels shows in this chart, things have been better for Americans under Democrats, no matter how much money you make.
www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/monkey-cage/wp/2014/07/24/obamas-uphill-s
truggle-against-economic-inequality
/

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Saturday, August 15, 2015 8:32 PM

Spare me YOUR LIES! Over 93 million able body people are unemployed in Obama's America, FACT! People on food stamps have doubled under Obama to over 40 million, FACT! The unemployment rate has dropped because fewer people are looking for jobs, FACT! So spare me your bullshit charts are story's from pinko websites and MSNBC, no one believes your lies and phoney propaganda anymore. Just admit you have to lie to pass you job killing programs.

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Saturday, August 15, 2015 10:18 PM

Thats a great impression uv a frothing at the mouth Fox eko chamber rezident! I had to back away from my screen to avoid the spittle!

You were doing an impression, rite?

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Saturday, August 15, 2015 11:28 PM

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Originally posted by whozit:
Spare me YOUR LIES!

Republicans are such good sports -- always telling jokes. Now let's get serious. Consider the track of unemployment under two presidents. One is lauded as the ultimate economic hero and savior; the other reviled as an economic failure, who killed jobs by being nice to poor people and insulting job creators. The chart compares their records.


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, August 15, 2015 11:53 PM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by whozit:
Spare me YOUR LIES!

Republicans are such good sports -- always telling jokes. Now let's get serious. Consider the track of unemployment under two presidents. One is lauded as the ultimate economic hero and savior; the other reviled as an economic failure, who killed jobs by being nice to poor people and insulting job creators. The chart compares their records.


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



The "numbers" for unemployment are down because people have stopped looking for work, over 93 million able body people are unemployed in Obamas America. Believe it or not (I don't care what you believe) the trucking industry needs drivers, there is a shortage of office workers and they are begging for people to work at seafood processing plants in Alaska. These are good paying jobs, but you instead of filling those jobs, you libs want to pay burger flippers $15 dollars an hour. Spare me your filth lies.

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Sunday, August 16, 2015 12:18 AM

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The "numbers" for unemployment are down because people have stopped looking for work, over 93 million able body people are unemployed in Obamas America. Believe it or not (I don't care what you believe) the trucking industry needs drivers, there is a shortage of office workers and they are begging for people to work at seafood processing plants in Alaska. These are good paying jobs, but you instead of filling those jobs, you libs want to pay burger flippers $15 dollars an hour.



That 93 million number is quite misleading, even if it's technically true. That includes, I'd wager, all students, all retirees, all disabled folks, all those laid off by the "job creators" who "created" jobs overseas and pocketed the bonus for being such great CEOs.

As well, libs don't want to pay burger flippers $15 an hour. We want to pay EVERYBODY a minimum of $15 an hour.

Instead of worrying why a "burger flipper" could be paid so much, maybe you should start asking why you're willing to work for so little.

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Sunday, August 16, 2015 12:43 AM

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Originally posted by whozit:
These are good paying jobs, but you instead of filling those jobs, you libs want to pay burger flippers $15 dollars an hour. Spare me your filth lies.

whozit is sensitive. It might be the thin skin of a tightwad.

The Washington Post informed me of yet another looming labor shortage to blame on Obama:
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There's a growing problem that chefs and restaurateurs are talking about more these days.

Good cooks are getting harder to come by. Not the head kitchen honchos, depicted in Food Network reality shows, who fine-tune menus, and orchestrate the dinner rush, but the men and women who are fresh out of culinary school and eager to earn their chops. The shortage of able kitchen hands is affecting chefs in Chicago....It's an issue in New York as well....And it extends to restaurants out West, where a similar pinch is being felt. Seattle is coping with the same dilemma. San Francisco, too.

....One of the clearest obstacles to hiring a good cook, let alone someone willing to work the kitchen these days, is that living in this country's biggest cities is increasingly unaffordable. In New York, for instance, where an average cook can expect to make somewhere between $10 and $12 per hour....

www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonkblog/wp/2015/08/12/the-crippling-probl
em-people-who-eat-at-restaurants-havent-noticed-but-chefs-are-freaking-out-about
/

Let's just stop right there. We've seen this movie before. What's really happening, apparently, is that there's a shortage of skilled people willing to work lousy hours and face long commutes in return for $10 to $12 per hour.

Offer them, say, $15 per hour, and who knows? Maybe there are plenty of good entry-level cooks available. This would raise your total cost of running the restaurant by, oh, 2 percent or so. (Back-of-envelope guess based on kitchen labor cost of 15 percent and entry-level cooks making up a third of that. If 5 percent of your cost base gets a 40 percent raise, that's about a 2 percent total increase.) But it's not like restaurants are competing with China. They're competing with other restaurants nearby that have the same problem. If the price of a good cook is going up, it's going to affect everyone.

I tire of reading stories like this. Tell me what happens when employers offer more money. If they still can't find qualified workers, then maybe there's a real problem. If they haven't even tried it, then maybe the problem isn't quite as dire as they're making it out to be.

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Originally posted by whozit:

Believe it or not (I don't care what you believe) the trucking industry needs drivers . . . Spare me your filth lies.

And the trucker shortage is Obama's fault? I don't see why when truckers have others to blame:
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Just last week it took me 13 hours to get loaded at a certain shipper in Yuma, Arizona. This is totally uncalled for. Right now, as I type this, I've been waiting for 18 hours to get loaded. This customer does not pay detention time, so I am sitting here for free. Many customers, because of their poor practices, end up indirectly making me stay awake for 24 hours or more. I never expected to have so many 24hr days. There are a lot of things that are unfair in this industry.

It is not a glamorous life and we are vastly underpaid for what we do. As an OTR truck driver, I am away from home 4 to 6 weeks or more at a time. I then go home for 4 days before I get back on the road for another 4 to 6 weeks. It's a tough life, both mentally and physically. The standard of living we have is much lower than most Americans.

www.truckingtruth.com/trucking_blogs/Article-2406/my-first-year-as-a-t
ruck-driver

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Sunday, August 16, 2015 1:31 AM

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Originally posted by JO753:
A Bush administration guy no less!
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/08/14/1412044/-George-HW-Bush-econo
mist-shocked-Chris-Hayes-when-he-said-this-about-his-Republican-Party?detail=email


Careful.
A thread title like that will make people suspect you are not really actually deluded. You might lose your Libtard Card.

But your link proves that you have found an elitist who is critical of reasonable voters and candidates, doesn't like voters being allowed to vote for the best candidate, critical of leaders of the party he previously worked for, and somehow we should be surprised that you label him a Republican and also consider him reasonable. Shocking, I say, shocking.

Next you will explain that your favorite Republican is Richard Dreyfus.

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