people dying of the heat - but hey, rappy's backyard is just fine!
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UPDATED: Sunday, December 8, 2024 17:08
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Quote:Hey, I'm just responding to the nonsense babble and unimportant details that YOU brought up! In a thread about global warming, you managed to bring up sanitation, your horrible neighbors, and your daughter's (imaginary) prospects for surviving an apocalypse, because your live "in the midwest" which is on (another imaginary) timeline from everyone else.
'Cause half of those are just nonsense babble, or unimportant details
HAHAHAAHAHA!
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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.
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OK, since you can't do it I will pick one you have repeated.
My kid and the apocalypse.
I believe something is going to happen, on a global scale within -let's say- 200 years.
I do not know what, and I do not know when, and neither does anyone else.
))))))My point was that in the event of a economic downturn, people in the Midwest are far more able to cope than people in cities, just due to availability of resources. WE ARE SURROUNDED BY FOOD, GENIUS!!!!! If that is the determining factor, and we only have the one mouth to sustain, sustain she will. If our health be the determining factor, then we die. Oh well...
You are trying to make global warming a personalized thing by attempting to play with my emotions- thus the manipulation part.
I realize I can only do what I can do, and no action I take is going to stop a comet from wiping out all life on Earth, from melting polar ice caps, from succumbing to a plague that wipes out all life. If it comes, it comes. I will not waste my life in worry about things I cannot change. .
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AT least you would have an assumption to start from instead of standing on HOPE. Hope is just delusion wrapped in a pretty dress.
And an assumption isn't equally a delusion - especially when it refuses to yield to facts?
You're trapped in your stalled out car on the train tracks. Your seat belt is jammed and the train is traveling toward you. You still have some time. Do you
1) dial 911, honk your horn and turn on your brights, keep trying to release the belt and keep trying to wiggle your way out of it, because there is some chance you'll be able to stay alive
2) say there is no train and refuse to look out the window
3) admit there is a train but conclude you'll be OK
Lots of problems on this planet.
And yet, the one to focus on would probably be the fatal one.
When you come up with a plan to FIX any one of them, instead of just applying yet another dirty bandage...You let me know.
I already did.
YOU start with the idea nothing will work. Direct action, even by millions of people - won't work. Political pressure - won't work. Democracy - won't work.
How do you know?
Let's look at democracy. For the most part, people have been voting for the same kinds of people with the same kinds of results. Has the alternative even been tested? When was the last time a DEMONSTRABLY populist party - that stands for the common person instead of corporate profit and power - been in government? Decades? A hundred years? Never? So, by what magic divination do you know ahead of time nothing will get better if such a party was to gain the vote?
SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.
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Quote:One person's vote won't change the USA, but one percent of all voters can because the weak link or maybe the hinge or the pivot point for governance is at the primary election where only a small percent of registered voters (10%, 15%) pick the candidates for all political offices.
Originally posted by Wishimay:
I will not waste my life in worry about things I cannot change.
This weakness in US democracy has been exploited since the days of Thomas Jefferson by the Top One Percent, the people with the most money in the USA. Very clever of them.
Not so clever, the Bottom 90 Percent can't understand why the Top One Percent control the USA. It is because the Bottom does not have the commonsense to vote in the primary elections.
Here come the excuses. There are always naysayers in the Bottom saying “My one vote does not count” and “I've got no time for politics”. The Top One Percent love you for saying that and don't even need to thank naysayers for their unpaid services. Just not voting in primaries serves well the Top 1%.
The good news is that we may not be doomed to spend the rest of our lives thinking of disgusting things to which to compare the American political process. This week for the first time, 12 major U.S. public interest organizations jointly released a campaign finance reform agenda. Simply creating a list of common demands is the baby step part of politics, there’s a reason parents get excited when their children first stand up and walk. https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/07/24/campaign-finance-reform-
world-gets-page-fight-big-money-empower-people/
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Quote:Well, first of all, you were convinced not three posts ago that a 20-30 year delay would be meaningful. Now you say it's 200 years. I think you believe whatever it is that gets you thru the day.
OK, since you can't do it I will pick one you have repeated.
My kid and the apocalypse.
I believe something is going to happen, on a global scale within -let's say- 200 years.
And, about those "beliefs"!
I started out my comments with the observation:
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WISH, you have a lot of "beliefs" ... about humanity, about capitalism, about socialism, about India, about history. But to you, your beliefs aren't beliefs, they're "the truth".
So thank you for demonstrating that I was correct, because you don't have knowledge, you have "beliefs". And very naive ones at that! Ones that give you "hope"!
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I do not know what, and I do not know when, and neither does anyone else.
Do I "know" that the sun will come up tomorrow? Well, not with 100.000000% certainty. A huge meteor may smack into the earth and knock it off its orbit, or the sun may go supernova. Both unlikely, but not impossible.
But I did invite you to do some back-of-the-envelope calculations, so what do those those calculations tell you about this?
WORLD POPULATION
HUMAN POPULATION AND SPECIES EXTINCTIONS
GLOBAL WARMING
What do these tell you about life in 20-30 years, and 200 years from now?
Quote:First: Big if. Maybe the determining factor is weather. Maybe you suffer from such a serious drought that nobody can grow anything ...
My point was that in the event of a economic downturn, people in the Midwest are far more able to cope than people in cities, just due to availability of resources. WE ARE SURROUNDED BY FOOD, GENIUS!!!!! If that is the determining factor
Second: Neither your nor your family are farmers. As far as I cant ell, you don't even garden. You may be surrounded by food (that's an "if") but it's not yours. And the farmers: they're going to give you food just because of your winning personality?
Third: How do you know that you won't be in the path of an exodus from the cities?
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we only have the one mouth to sustain, sustain she will.
Your mixed pronouns indicate that you (plural) will starve to sustain one. Correct?
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You are trying to make global warming a personalized thing by attempting to play with my emotions- thus the manipulation part.
Look, if I told someone here is the LA area that they better get some earthquake supplies together so their family will survive "the big one", is that being manipulative, or just passing on some common sense?
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I realize I can only do what I can do ...
Yes, you can do only what you can do. So do what you can. Both KIKI and SECOND had good points to make on this.
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... and no action I take is going to stop a comet from wiping out all life on Earth, from melting polar ice caps, from succumbing to a plague that wipes out all life.
Oh, you mean no action BY YOURSELF? You're right - you're not superwoman. Nobody expects you to solve the world's problem by yourself. Nobody expects your hubby to give up his coal job. Because of my blood sugar, I don't expect that I'll give up eating meat.
Quote:And neither do I. Am I prepared for a comet strike? No. Am I prepared for an earthquake? Yes. Do I do something about global warming? Yes. And the first thing that I do is-
If it comes, it comes. I will not waste my life in worry about things I cannot change.
I don't engage in magical thinking.
I don't i
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Originally posted by Wishimay:
You must spend hours [.cuddling up next to the bracket button.]
I get that it does make you feel better to try and nick pick every little point. You probably need to understand that every time I see that all I can think is O...C...D.
I dare you, find ONE major point that is the most important of all those things to you and argue it in paragraph form.
'Cause half of those are just nonsense babble, or unimportant details, or desperate attempts to cross-connect things I've said so you can prove me wrong in your own head. I don't even know where to start... It's like you've perfected the whole "baffle them with bullshit" routine.
Somebody on the internet is wrong. About something. Or so she thinks.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:One person's vote won't change the USA, but one percent of all voters can because the weak link or maybe the hinge or the pivot point for governance is at the primary election where only a small percent of registered voters (10%, 15%) pick the candidates for all political offices.
Originally posted by Wishimay:
I will not waste my life in worry about things I cannot change.
This weakness in US democracy has been exploited since the days of Thomas Jefferson by the Top One Percent, the people with the most money in the USA. Very clever of them.
Not so clever, the Bottom 90 Percent can't understand why the Top One Percent control the USA. It is because the Bottom does not have the commonsense to vote in the primary elections.
Here come the excuses. There are always naysayers in the Bottom saying “My one vote does not count” and “I've got no time for politics”. The Top One Percent love you for saying that and don't even need to thank naysayers for their unpaid services. Just not voting in primaries serves well the Top 1%.
My excuse is more better.
My state does not allow voters to select the best candidate in any partisan Primary. Only in General Elections, when the Libtards stuff the ballot boxes.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Somebody on the internet is wrong. About something. Or so she thinks.
And somebody else likes to jump on bandwagons at the last second of a conversation because it's easier then having a conversation.
P.s. I've been gone all day, it's 9:30 and I'm to tired to deal with a group of mindless parrots. Another day maybe...
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Another day maybe...
See you later, then.
SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.
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Quote:
Originally posted by Wishimay:Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Somebody on the internet is wrong. About something. Or so she thinks.
And somebody else likes to jump on bandwagons at the last second of a conversation because it's easier then having a conversation.
P.s. I've been gone all day, it's 9:30 and I'm to tired to deal with a group of mindless parrots. Another day maybe...
You were tired.
The "she" I was referring to was not you. She was the person you were referring to in your appropriate post. With OCD.
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