Cinema

Films that ventured too close to reality.

POSTED BY: JEWELSTAITEFAN
UPDATED: Tuesday, May 19, 2015 04:52
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Saturday, May 9, 2015 2:34 AM

I also recall that in Little Man Tate, the depictions of mathematical visualizations in his head were really good, they took me back to that age doing those things.
As well as Amadeus, Hulce's depictions of a genius felt like I was in the presence of many of the other geniuses I was familiar with - most films trying to display genius fail miserably, dumbing things down for the masses.


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FMJ: I would say the whole movie, the whole entire message it depicts about war in modern times, but I know that might not be a satisfactory answer for you. So, I'll say the first half, because that's about as real as it gets. No, I've never been in the armed forces, but I've had friends and family who were. Yes, that first half, during Boot Camp.


The Boot Camp portion of that was hard for me to get through, it was so unrealistic, and nothing like Marine Corps Boot Camp. I wondered if the whole movie was going to be that bad, and if I should just walk out.

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Saturday, May 9, 2015 2:19 PM

Well, I'm going to go with your take, because, apparently, you served. Bravo!

But my guess is that Kubrick's "realism" is quite the contrary and could be deemed poetic license in lieu of reality. Consider his track record as a film maker and resident mad scientist of filmdom reputation. I'm sorry that I confused his take as realism, and I should know better because of the aforementioned track record. 2001, The Shining, Barry Lyndon, A Clockwork Orange.........strange and unusual, a challenge to the natural senses. Imagine him tackling Apocalypse Now, or One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.

So, perhaps you have a point. Far too surreal and off kilter to be real.


SGG


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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I also recall that in Little Man Tate, the depictions of mathematical visualizations in his head were really good, they took me back to that age doing those things.
As well as Amadeus, Hulce's depictions of a genius felt like I was in the presence of many of the other geniuses I was familiar with - most films trying to display genius fail miserably, dumbing things down for the masses.


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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
FMJ: I would say the whole movie, the whole entire message it depicts about war in modern times, but I know that might not be a satisfactory answer for you. So, I'll say the first half, because that's about as real as it gets. No, I've never been in the armed forces, but I've had friends and family who were. Yes, that first half, during Boot Camp.


The Boot Camp portion of that was hard for me to get through, it was so unrealistic, and nothing like Marine Corps Boot Camp. I wondered if the whole movie was going to be that bad, and if I should just walk out.

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Saturday, May 9, 2015 2:23 PM

China Syndrome, Silkwood.............very scary, because it could be deemed a close call.


SGG


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The China Syndrome was fictional, but the Three Mile Island meltdown occurred just twelve days after the movie was released. Seems to me that is the quintessential definition of "too close to reality."



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Saturday, May 9, 2015 11:21 PM

Just realized I should include Lorenzo's Oil. Although a true story, it is so close on many other fronts, and involves current paralysis problems with artificial sweeteners, so many people should likely not see it or their heads will explode.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
FMJ: I would say the whole movie, the whole entire message it depicts about war in modern times, but I know that might not be a satisfactory answer for you. So, I'll say the first half, because that's about as real as it gets. No, I've never been in the armed forces, but I've had friends and family who were. Yes, that first half, during Boot Camp.


The Boot Camp portion of that was hard for me to get through, it was so unrealistic, and nothing like Marine Corps Boot Camp. I wondered if the whole movie was going to be that bad, and if I should just walk out.


But my guess is that Kubrick's "realism" is quite the contrary and could be deemed poetic license in lieu of reality. Consider his track record as a film maker and resident mad scientist of filmdom reputation. I'm sorry that I confused his take as realism, and I should know better because of the aforementioned track record. 2001, The Shining, Barry Lyndon, A Clockwork Orange.........strange and unusual, a challenge to the natural senses. Imagine him tackling Apocalypse Now, or One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.

So, perhaps you have a point. Far too surreal and off kilter to be real.


SGG


Imagine Kubrick's American Sniper. Or Lorenzo's Oil, Saving Private Ryan, Phenomenon.

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Monday, May 11, 2015 2:05 AM

I should add the book Mindhunter by John E. Douglas.
All the entertainment surrounding profilers, serial killer investigations, Behavioral Science Unit, and the FBI's biggest mistake of shutting down that unit, essentially based on Douglas' work.
Including Thomas Harris works.

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Saturday, May 16, 2015 3:24 AM

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2. Run, Bambi, Run. More corruption from the Mecca of Socialism, Milwaukee. Shouldn't all murderers be allowed to be lead investigator into their own crimes, and be able to frame their ex-wife?


A corollary might be when George StepOnAllOfUs is exposed as the heavily biased "reporter" or "analyst" of the Clinton Crime Family who makes bribe or kick-back payments to the same Clinton Crime Family, and then ABC Entertainment Division assigns him as the "reporter" or "interviewer" of the author who exposed him.
Normally I would not suggest that a factual book like Clinton Cash be included here, but the allegory is striking.

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Tuesday, May 19, 2015 4:52 AM

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2. Suspect Zero. On the DVD, be sure to see the demonstration in Special Features, after watching the flik.


Not a book or film, but one of the instances I was thinking of for this category.
TV show on primetime, like news magazine or something, with Technical Remote Viewing. This was in the mid-nineties on a big 3 network, I couldn't figure out how they were going to get away with showing it, how were they going to falsely "disprove" the practice?
The Remove Viewer they used was one I was familiar with, so even though I was just walking by the broadcast, I had to sit down and watch to see how they could shoot it down.
The Remote Viewer drew the scene that the volunteer was looking at. The pier, with the couple at the end, and the floppy hat the woman was wearing, the kid riding bike in the foreground, the boat with the few people on the bow, silhouettes the same, and THE NAME OF THE BOAT (Maid of the Mist), and other details. But the stated goal was for the Remote Viewer to name the site or landmark, which he did not do. This particular Remote Viewer had a known restriction of not being able to "see" water in a viewing, and the huge blank part of the drawing he produced showed that it was in fact Niagara Falls. I think this was also one where the Remote Viewer was drawing 2 days prior to the volunteer actually going to the site, and of course all of those tourist people were also not there at the time of the Viewing, but at the time of the Volunteer's presence.
I never figured out how they were able to get away with that episode without the "public" going bat crazy. I think it was a Hugh Downs show.

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