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2 of Bali 9 executed early this morning.

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Wednesday, April 29, 2015 3:11 AM

‘Bali Nine’ leaders executed by firing squad in Indonesia

Indonesia has executed two Australians who had been convicted of drug charges, in a sentence that was was carried out despite global pleas to spare the duo from a firing squad.

Myuran Sukumaran and Andrew Chan were among those executed early Wednesday, according to the Jakarta Post. A total of eight prisoners were killed in Wednesday’s execution, the Jakarta Post reported.

One Filipino woman received a last-minute reprieve, according to the newspaper.

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Wednesday, April 29, 2015 6:18 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
‘Bali Nine’ leaders executed by firing squad in Indonesia

Indonesia has executed two Australians who had been convicted of drug charges, in a sentence that was was carried out despite global pleas to spare the duo from a firing squad.

Myuran Sukumaran and Andrew Chan were among those executed early Wednesday, according to the Jakarta Post. A total of eight prisoners were killed in Wednesday’s execution, the Jakarta Post reported.

One Filipino woman received a last-minute reprieve, according to the newspaper.


I have not heard the details. Were the pleas because they were innocent? Railroaded? Not allowed a defense? They never committed these crimes, or any crimes?
If they did actually commit the crimes, what was the beef from the globe? Do the crime, pay the fine.

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Wednesday, April 29, 2015 6:51 AM


I dunno the details, but it sounds like they did commit the crimes, spent 10 years in jail, and THEN were executed. A bit on the harsh side, imo, for just transporting drugs in, or what ever it was they did. From the comments I heard, they were basically just mules, and the actual guys in charge, the drug lords or what ever, haven't been caught.

Aussies really were bent over this, w/ even some suggesting going to war.

Admittedly, they were just venting, over the needless severity of the sentence, but many really are angry.

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Wednesday, April 29, 2015 6:56 AM

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I dunno the details, but it sounds like they did commit the crimes, spent 10 years in jail, and THEN were executed. A bit on the harsh side, imo, for just transporting drugs in, or what ever it was they did. From the comments I heard, they were basically just mules, and the actual guys in charge, the drug lords or what ever, haven't been caught.

Aussies really were bent over this, w/ even some suggesting going to war.

Admittedly, they were just venting, over the needless severity of the sentence, but many really are angry.


That sounds weird. I thought Aussies had really strict sentences. Or was that for illegal immigration, and they don't care about importation of drugs?
So, they knew the crime, they knew the fine, they decided to do it anyhow.
????

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Wednesday, April 29, 2015 7:04 AM

They are strict on illegal immigration, but are pretty staunchly against capital punishment. And certainly not for the crime of running drugs. I mean, it's not like they were involved in the sex slave trade, and torturing folks. Seems to me 10 years alone would suffice. But 10 + being executed by firing squad ?

Not quite ISIS barbarism, but pretty darn close.


Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

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Wednesday, April 29, 2015 12:17 PM

35 people were executed in the USA in 2014

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_offenders_executed_in_the_United_
States_in_2014







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Wednesday, April 29, 2015 3:53 PM

yes, thank you kiki. This story has zero to do w/ the USA, but don't let that stop you from trying to spin it into USA sucks.

Go troll somewhere else.

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Wednesday, April 29, 2015 6:01 PM

The Bali 8 (sic) were not executed this morning. Two of the so called Bali 9 were executed this morning along with 6 others who had been convicted of drug crimes in Indonesia. A Filipino woman was granted a stay of execution.

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Indonesia’s execution of eight drug offenders on Wednesday has drawn international condemnation –
Indonesia’s execution of eight drug offenders on Wednesday drew international condemnation and swift diplomatic retaliation from Australia, which announced the recall of its envoy to Jakarta over the “cruel and unnecessary” killings.

Supporters of Mary Jane Veloso, a woman from the Phillipines who was also scheduled to die, celebrated her “miraculous” last-minute reprieve from the firing squad as Indonesian officials stressed her death had been “postponed, not cancelled”.

Along with Australians Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran, four Nigerian men, an Indonesian and a Brazilian were executed by firing squad at 12:30am, local time, on the Indonesian prison island of Nusa Kambangan.

The deaths of Chan and Sukumaran, convicted for their part in the so-called Bali Nine plot to export 8.3kg of heroin from Indonesia into Australia, came despite years of high-profile campaigns and high-level representations by Australian diplomats.

“These executions are both cruel and unnecessary; cruel because both Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran spent some decade in jail before being executed, and unnecessary, because both of these young Australians were fully rehabilitated while in prison,” the prime minister said.

Ministerial contacts between the two countries had been suspended “and they will remain suspended for a period”, Abbott said.

“This is a dark moment in the relationship [but] I am confident that the relationship will be restored.”

Indonesia’s attorney general, HM Prasetyo, said the withdrawal of the ambassador would be only “momentary”.

“The Netherlands have done the same thing in the past. Brazil has done the same thing,” he said. “I think this is just a momentary reaction, and this will be settled within the diplomatic sphere. What we are doing is carrying out the court decision. Every case should have an end.”

Nigerians Raheem Agbaje Salami (also known as Jamiu Owolabi Abashin), Silvester Obiekwe Nwolise, Martin Anderson and Okwuduli Oyatanze were also executed on Wednesday morning, along with Indonesian Zainal Abidin.

Veloso was temporarily spared after the woman she claims recruited her as an unknowing drug courier handed herself into Philippines police on Tuesday, hours before Veloso was scheduled to die.

Prasetyo said on Wednesday her death sentence had been “postponed, not cancelled”, after the government acceded to a request by the Philippines to allow Veloso the chance to testify against the courier, Maria Kristina Sergio, and others in human trafficking cases.

“That was why, in the end, we decided to respect the legal process going on in the Philippines, postponing the execution,” he said.

But he maintained that Veloso’s attempt to smuggle heroin into the country would still be taken into account. “Even if she was discovered to be a victim of human trafficking, the fact is that she was caught bringing heroin into Indonesia. [Being a victim] will not erase Mary Jane’s criminal responsibility,” he said.

He refused to answer whether Veloso’s sentence would be reduced if she was discovered to be a victim, but said that she was allowed to file another case review.

Asked whether Indonesia would consider a moratorium on the death penalty, he replied he would “have to think about it”.

“Particularly if we relate that to Indonesians facing death penalty in other countries. Let’s say we implement a moratorium on death penalty, will other countries do the same? There’s no guarantee, right?” he said.

News of Veloso’s eleventh hour reprieve caught out newspapers in the Philippines, whose front pages on Wednesday carried dramatic headlines announcing her death.

“Farewell, Mary Jane”, read the black-themed front page of Manila’s best-selling Filipino

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Thursday, April 30, 2015 3:03 AM

So, only 2 of the Bali 9... thanks for the correction. I only had heard that members of the Bali 9 were executed, w/ one's sentence being commuted.

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Thursday, April 30, 2015 6:06 AM

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35 people were executed in the USA in 2014

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_offenders_executed_in_the_United_
States_in_2014




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That chart looks like the Clinton reign had banner years, then during Bush declined, but resurged once Obama got in.
Clinton was able to triple the rate, then Bush only had one year with more than any of Clinton's last 4 years, and Obama needed six years to drop below the lowest year under Bush.

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