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Monday, February 14, 2022 1:14 AM

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Originally posted by second:
...and maybe reason will prevail in the head of V.V. Putin, which is what matters.



Yeah. Like I said a week ago, hopefully Putin realizes that pudding head Joe* won't have any power soon and that traitor to our country does not speak for the American People.

Let's worry about our own border, and the fact that traitor Biden* and his traitor head of HS is flying illegal alien men all over our own country under the cover of night.



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Monday, February 14, 2022 1:55 AM

As Vladimir Putin steps up his military pressure on the Ukrainian border, there are signs that some members of Russia’s officer corps oppose his actions.

The most eyebrow-raising of these dissents is an open letter by retired Col. Gen. Leonid Ivashov posted on the website of the All-Russian Officers’ Assembly, which he chairs. In it, he rejects Putin’s claim that NATO poses a threat to Russia’s vital interests, warns that invading Ukraine “will forever make Russians and Ukrainians mortal enemies,” and calls on Putin to step down.

He concludes, “We, Russia’s officers, demand that the President of the Russian Federation reject the criminal policy of provoking a war in which Russia would find itself alone against the united forces of the West.”

Unlike most criticisms of Putin, even from less venerated sources, Ivashov’s appeal—which was posted on Jan. 31—hasn’t been taken down. Nor has anyone issued a rebuttal. Nor has any member of Ivashov’s organization dissociated himself from the denunciation.

Ivashov’s public appeal is significant, in that it speaks to the frustration and concern felt within a fraction of the Russian political scene that tends to remain behind the scenes, yet which has perhaps more traction than any other within the security forces, which are also the ultimate guarantors of Putin’s authority.

Another example of internal dissent—less dramatic, but in some ways more intriguing and possibly more significant—is an article by retired Col. Mikhail Khodarenok. As the former head of the Main Operational Directorate of the Russian Armed Forces’ General Staff and the editor of an influential military journal, Khodarenok has strong ties with active-duty senior officers.

In last week’s issue of the widely read Independent Military Review, Khodarenok derides the notion, held by many senior political officials in Moscow, that Russia could conquer Ukraine in short order. This view, he writes, reflects “complete ignorance of the military-political situation and the mood of the broad masses” in Ukraine. It ignores the fact—of which he says there should be “no doubt”—that Western nations would send Ukraine massive quantities of arms similar to the U.S. Lend-Lease Act that helped the Allied armies in World War II. He reminds readers that Josef Stalin’s soldiers “fought the nationalist underground in Western Ukraine for more than 10 years”—and that the resistance fighters in today’s Ukraine would be fiercer still. “Finally,” Khodarenok concludes, “the most important thing: An armed conflict with Ukraine is currently fundamentally not in Russia’s national interest.”

If an invasion of Ukraine bogs down as troops are sent home in body bags, the grounds will have already been laid for serious, perhaps fatal opposition not only to Putin’s war, but possibly to his rule.


https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/02/ukraine-crisis-putin-milit
ary-opposition.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, February 14, 2022 2:43 AM

Is be willing to bet that these articles are misquoted to the point of fabrication, because they ignore the facts that

1) The entire Ruusian political and serving military establishment has stood shoulder to shoulder saying that they had NO INTENTION of invading Ukraine absent hostile action from Ukraine or the west. They don't want Ukraine, it's a dumpster fire and a headache that Russia doesn't want or need. If Russia were to do anything, they would probably do what they did in Georgia: destroy it's military capability and withdraw.

2) Russia is not "alone". IF war were to break out in Ukraine, China would be all-tio happy to turn the situation into a two-front war, and America's other enemies (Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, possibly even Venezuela) would probably find it a propitious time to pile on, creating a multi-front conflict that would pull American resources in a half-dozen different directions.

So it's all bullshit.



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Monday, February 14, 2022 3:26 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Is be willing to bet that these articles are misquoted to the point of fabrication, because they ignore the facts that

1) The entire Ruusian political and serving military establishment has stood shoulder to shoulder saying that they had NO INTENTION of invading Ukraine absent hostile action from Ukraine or the west. They don't want Ukraine, it's a dumpster fire and a headache that Russia doesn't want or need. If Russia were to do anything, they would probably do what they did in Georgia: destroy it's military capability and withdraw.

2) Russia is not "alone". IF war were to break out in Ukraine, China would be all-tio happy to turn the situation into a two-front war, and America's other enemies (Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, possibly even Venezuela) would probably find it a propitious time to pile on, creating a multi-front conflict that would pull American resources in a half-dozen different directions.

So it's all bullshit.

In 2014 Putin called Ukraine a bunch Nazis.
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-28051208
https://www.google.com/search?q=did+putin+call+ukraine+a+bunch+of+nazi
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In 2022, Putin is still calling Ukraine a bunch of Nazis. Same old bullshit from Putin, different year. Maybe by 2030, Putin will drive those Nazis away from Russia's border. Or maybe not. Depends on how dangerous Putin thinks Nazis are.
https://time.com/6140996/putin-ukraine-threats/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, February 14, 2022 6:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Is be willing to bet that these articles are misquoted to the point of fabrication, because they ignore the facts that

1) The entire Ruusian political and serving military establishment has stood shoulder to shoulder saying that they had NO INTENTION of invading Ukraine absent hostile action from Ukraine or the west. They don't want Ukraine, it's a dumpster fire and a headache that Russia doesn't want or need. If Russia were to do anything, they would probably do what they did in Georgia: destroy it's military capability and withdraw.

2) Russia is not "alone". IF war were to break out in Ukraine, China would be all-tio happy to turn the situation into a two-front war, and America's other enemies (Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, possibly even Venezuela) would probably find it a propitious time to pile on, creating a multi-front conflict that would pull American resources in a half-dozen different directions.

So it's all bullshit.

In 2014 Putin called Ukraine a bunch Nazis.
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-28051208
https://www.google.com/search?q=did+putin+call+ukraine+a+bunch+of+nazi
s


In 2022, Putin is still calling Ukraine a bunch of Nazis. Same old bullshit from Putin, different year. Maybe by 2030, Putin will drive those Nazis away from Russia's border. Or maybe not. Depends on how dangerous Putin thinks Nazis are.
https://time.com/6140996/putin-ukraine-threats/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



lol

How many times have I been called a Nazi on these boards from Lefty idiots.

You're all a bunch of morons.

You and Putin deserve each other.

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THG
Tuesday, February 15, 2022 1:38 AM

Putin's hand is on Europe's gas lever. So why not just get rid of the fossil fuel?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-s-hand-is-on-europe-s-gas-l
ever-so-why-not-just-get-rid-of-the-fossil-fuel/ar-AATQgcJ?ocid=msedgntp




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Wednesday, February 16, 2022 1:37 AM

The "invasion" of Ukraine was supposed to happen yesterday.

Maybe today? Tomorrow?

I'm waiting for USA/UK operatives to launch their provocation/ false flag. Bc the only way you can predict when a war will start is if you intend to launch it yourself

Since the Ukraine military probably doesn't want to commit suicide, if it happens it will probably not be a mass attack (shelling of the Donbas for example) but a high-imoact small operation. Possibly shooting down a Russian jetliner in Russian airspace from Ukrainian space (provocation). Or the west's favorite ploy: a chemical weapons attack on western Ukraine, claiming the Russians did it (false flag).

Or hopefully nothing will happen. Biden* will claim victory!

Meanwhile, the Russian exercises are due to wind down on the 20th. The troops will be sent back to their home bases (far east).

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Wednesday, February 16, 2022 3:18 AM

From a German blogger

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The Big White House Plans Behind Its 'Russian Invasion' Scam

As the 'Russian invasion' scam reaches new heights it is time to look at the motives behind it.

The noise has become deafening.

US warns war could be ‘imminent’ in Ukraine - Politico, Feb 11, 2022

> The U.S. intelligence briefing included specific reference to next Wednesday, February 16, as a start date for the ground invasion, three officials — based in Washington, London and Ukraine — told POLITICO. <

Russian invasion could begin at any time, White House says - Reuters, Feb 14, 2022

'Could' is doing a lot of work in those headlines.

Can we get it a bit more precise?

DAWN RAID Russia set to invade Ukraine at 1AM tomorrow with massive missile blitz and 200,000 troops, US intelligence claims - The Sun, Feb 15, 2022
Russia will order invasion of Ukraine at 3am tomorrow, sources say - Coventry Telegraph, Feb 15, 2022

1am or 3am?

Which is it?

And in what timezone?

And 200,000 troops? Yesterday there were only 100,000. How can those have doubled over night?

There is also the question of why.

Why has the Biden administration created an artificial 'crisis' about a Russian invasion of Ukraine when such an invasion is neither planned nor likely to happen? Why is it claiming that a Russian invasion of the Ukraine is 'imminent' when Russia as well as the Ukraine deny that any will be coming.

Why does it distribute misleading satellite pictures of allegedly deployed tanks when those are directly next to the barracks where they belong? Why does it hype a 'Russian buildup' when that is something that is claimed each and every year?

Jack Matlock, the last U.S. ambassador to the USSR, has one answer:

Maybe I am wrong – tragically wrong – but I cannot dismiss the suspicion that we are witnessing an elaborate charade, grossly magnified by prominent elements of the American media, to serve a domestic political end. Facing rising inflation, the ravages of Omicron, blame (for the most part unfair) for the withdrawal from Afghanistan, plus the failure to get the full support of his own party for the Build Back Better legislation, the Biden administration is staggering under sagging approval ratings just as it gears up for this year’s congressional elections.

Since clear "victories" on the domestic woes seem increasingly unlikely, why not fabricate one by posing as if he prevented the invasion of Ukraine by "standing up to Vladimir Putin"?

Actually, it seems most likely that President Putin’s goals are what he says they are – and as he has been saying since his speech in Munich in 2007. To simplify and paraphrase, I would sum them up as: "Treat us with at least a modicum of respect. We do not threaten you or your allies, why do you refuse us the security you insist for yourself?"

Alastair Crooke points to a different motive:

The authoritative Global Times in an editorial warns that the U.S. is instigating conflict in Ukraine in order to tighten bloc discipline – to corral European States back into the U.S.-led fold. No doubt, China makes the connection that Ukraine provides the perfect pivot for shepherding Europe towards America’s next stage of requiring a united front with the U.S. for the later task of barricading-in China, behind her borders.

In play, therefore, are key decisions that will define Europe for the future. On the one hand, (as Pepe Escobar noted some two years ago), “the goal of Russian and Chinese policy is to recruit Germany into a triple alliance locking together the Eurasian land mass à la Mackinder into the greatest geopolitical alliance in history – switching world power in favour of these three great powers, and against Anglo-Saxon sea power”.

And on the other hand, NATO was conceived, from the outset, as a means of Anglo-American control over Europe and more precisely for keeping Germany ‘down’, and Russia ‘out’ (in that old a

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Wednesday, February 16, 2022 10:06 PM

Russian Today (RT) Chief Spouts Ukraine Extermination Camp Lie

Simonyan claimed that Ukraine has been waging a war against its own people for eight years, killing thousands of civilians. Thousands of children who had “their arms and legs torn off” were “buried in small coffins,” she said.

She used inflammatory language to argue for a humanitarian intervention:

“Russia cannot but stop this war. What are we waiting for? For when camps are organized there? For when they are gassing their own people?”

https://www.polygraph.info/a/fact-check-margarita-simonyan-concentrati
on-camps/31705120.html


Margarita Simonyan about the situation in Ukraine in the program 'Sunday Evening with Vladimir Solovyov'



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Wednesday, February 16, 2022 10:08 PM

Not to dissimilar to Justin Trudeau's lies about his own people.

Sure, he's not killing anyone... yet.

Just doing everything in his power to make sure that any Canadian citizens that don't agree with him lose everything including the ability to feed themselves and their families.

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