Guaranteed to get your blood boiling....
POSTED BY: Peace
UPDATED: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 21:18
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I don't watch Angel or Buffy much, but from the movies and shows I've seen I know Gina, Alan, Adam, Jewel, Summer, Cappy, Sean, Ron and Morrena are very talented actors and actresses. Joss is one awesome idea man too. It's fine if someone dislikes the show but don't disrespect the cast. I mean really watch the show, it may be hard to follow if you're not paying attention(or have decided not to try to understand) but you really have to see it before you can have a thought out, informed, logical oppinion of the show. I completely understand the whole wanting to rant thing. There are some very ingnorant things said about the cast, the crew and the fans. That is only thing that made me mad instead of laughing at Sickboy's post, instead of talking about how he felt about the caractors he dissed the cast. Joss is an original thinker. I am wondering though why Fox canceled Firefly? Sickboy said that fans can only take the show so far, but really if it's not the fans who is watching?
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Originally posted by Ankhagogo:Quote:
Originally posted by Jerry111:
Guys, just because that guy dosen't share the same opinions as you do on a show does not mean that they are low-intelligence etc etc..
There's nothing such as a "best" show. What's "good" is only what appeals to you, and that may not appeal to everyone.
Well, I do agree with that as a general life rule, but, to me, what proves any "low-intelligence" comments is this:Quote:
That was the stupidest, gayest, wannabe tough-guy dialogue I've ever seen, delivered by a hack.
Anyone who feels the need to use any form of a the word "gay" as an insult is a complete idiot, and not worthy of my attention. It's prejudiced, plain and simple, and slurs on someone's race, sexuality, religous preference, gender or nationality is the lowest-intelligence form of insult.
Even if he hadn't been raving like a lunatic, that one word alone, in that context, would make me discount anything else he'd said.
Ok. Weird. It ate my text. Anyway, I was just saying that I think we should make a distinction between "idiotic" and "ignorant." The person making these inflamatory comments may actually be quite intelligent, but he/she is still an ignorant git.
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Have you noticed:
1. The number of people ranting about the ranter? Obviously, many people feel strongly on this side (whether Sickboy feels strongly is not known - he may have just been ranting to provoke heated response).
2. How different these rants are from the original they are ranting about? Apparently, we are not the blind fanatics Sickboy thinks we are; the responses to his original rant have been extremely calm as well as articulate.
Guess Sickboy is gonna have to find some other (unwatched) show to lambaste! Or...Hmm...how about making snide comments about Bert and Ernie being a gay couple (how anybody can believe 2 foam handpuppets are capable of anything other than sitting there and being foam handpuppets is something I just don't get - hello! They. Aren't. Real...). After all, Sickboy does seem to have something against gays...
"They've gone to *plaid*!"
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Originally posted by Phoenixship:
Yeah, I hated Fastlane and everything it stood for, but I SIMPLY DIDN'T WATCH IT. I CHANGED THE CHANNEL. I didn't lurk around strange message boards after dark trying to pick a fight about it.
"I didn't LURK around trying to pick a fight about it." :lol:Re: the whole Whedon & GT rants: Honestly I don't get it. Personally, I didn't watch FF until this past May. The trailers Fox ran in 2002 made it look stupid, and I wasn't interested. I already watched Buffy and Angel religiously though.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, people. You can't take it personally. Sure, Laurence would jack up anybody who dissed his woman, but he has too much other important stuff to deal with. For as many negative reviews / disses of FF (BtVS & Angel) there are hundreds times that who LOVE it. The DVD sales don't lie. The opinion boards don't lie. Firefly is one of the shiniest shows to come around. It's different from the Star Treks - and it is totally awesome if you dig them, I only watch original ST. Maybe you don't like Mutant Enemy's projects. That's fine. What the hell DO you like? You know what? Scratch that, reverse it. Who the hell cares. Do whatcha want!
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I just had to reply. Feel free to use my comments on these... people.
Also, I've noted that there seems to be, with certain TV professionals, an anti-Whedon streak. It really bugs me but I noticed that on genre fan sites Joss is roundly attacked (by these TV people as well as others... I guess). Why? It's not like Babylon5 could hold a candle to Firefly. SG-1? HAHA nooo, a mere adventure show for kids. Enterprise? Crap! It's pretty obvious Firefly is THE Sci-Fi show to come around in a decade.
How do I know? Well, it's so popular even after being cancelled the studio was forced to rethink thier stupidity and were forced to admite they MUST keep this going. Not because they wanted to but because WE wanted it to!
That's called success. 
And now... the bashing...
Originally posted by Peace:
Just because I wanted to stir up a controversy with something other than politics, I pulled these posts from the Talkback thread attached to the Ain’t It Cool News article that announces the new Universal site.
This first one’s a doozy, and has been edited slight for language probably inappropriate for fireflyfans.net—
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From: sickboy2002
Subject: GET OVER FIREFLY!!! IT S-U-C-K-E-D!!!!
Comment: Give it a break, losers. This show ******* blew...that is why it got cancelled.
Ghouly comments: - The voice of authority seems to have forgotten all the factors that contributed to the shows cancellation. He even failed to mention FOX CEO intellegence.
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Poor writing,
It's the best writing on TV. That's why all the writers LOVE Joss Whedon. Wow, this poster really has no idea what he means... it's like a shot gun blast - all over the place hopeing to hit something.
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poor casting,
HAHAHA. Compared to what?
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poor premise.
A "space western" is a standard. This guy is really stretching.
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Whedon can always rely on his cult to support him to a point but they are never enough to put his mediocre product over the top. The Firefly movie will suck because the show sucked.
See... he insults the show and the shows fans and tries to tell us that it sucks so much and we fans are so few that, er, um, they desided to make a movie.
What kind o' frelled up logic is that?
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I remember seeing a preview for one of the episodes where the Han Solo rip-off says some thing like, "A good man wouldn't do this", then he kicks someone who's down and says, "I guess I'm not a good man". With that, I knew I'd never watch. That was the stupidest, gayest, wannabe tough-guy dialogue I've ever seen, delivered by a hack. THE CAST SUCKED!!!
Han Solo rip off? Both Han and Mal are similair characters in that they are disaffected anti-heros. Every bloody movie made in the USA has at least one protagonist of this ilk.
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The best part is, when that **** show got yanked Whedon tried to force-feed the cast to the rest of his cult! He cats that talentless black chick on Angel, where that plotline pretty much sunk the show, seeing how it didn't recover from the ratings low during that period. Then Jossy-boy shove that **** Han Solo loser into Buffy as the deranged Preacher Caleb, an utterly useless character. I watched the entire run of Buffy, but when he showed up and it was obvious that Whedon was trying to prove a point, I quit watching.
Well, it's common practice to hire actors you've worked with before. Should the Enterprise set be destroyed for reusing actors that have worked in Trek for the last 10 years? This guy is accusing Joss of a common Hollywoodland practice. Lamest... whine... ever.
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In fact, I made a point not to watch the episodes with that douchebag, then tuned back in after he was killed off. Sorry Whedon, but I don't play your game.
He's going on and on eh? Do you think maybeeee... he's lieing? Hmmm. Well, he might just be really stupid.
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Basically, it come down to a bruised ego. Firefly sucked *** in every way.
This is
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I'm not going to read the comments, I don't need to. I just want to let people know two unrealted things.
1) I'm still here.
2) There are still morons in the world.
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^^^ Sorry christhecynic... but you just called yourself a moron. lol! Sorry, I just had to point that out. What? You're shocked and disappointed? I'm evil!
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Originally posted by Ghoulman:
^^^
I knew someone would, but I hoped that I was wrong. We're fellow Firefly fans, the cream of the science fiction crop. We should be better than that.
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