Our beloved Russia is Falling, Yikes

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SIGNYM

Saturday, January 10, 2015 12:10 PM

There in Russia, the rich break the law. Here in the USA, the rich pay for the laws to be rewritten. See??? No corruption!

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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.

THGRRI

Saturday, January 10, 2015 6:12 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
There in Russia, the rich break the law. Here in the USA, the rich pay for the laws to be rewritten. See??? No corruption!

Since you say you do not live in Russia perhaps you should visit. Then you may recognize the difference. The Russian people are oppressed. When opposition to the ruling party winds up in prison, the population is oppressed.

SIGNYM

Saturday, January 10, 2015 8:38 PM

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Since you say you do not live in Russia perhaps you should visit. Then you may recognize the difference. The Russian people are oppressed. When opposition to the ruling party winds up in prison, the population is oppressed.

Well, that's an interesting point, because here in the good ole' USofA, we have the second-highest rate of incarceration in the world.... commonly quoted at 1000 per 100,000 population, but listed by Wikipedia at 707 adults per 100,000 population. (Maybe the discrepancy comes about when we include incarcerated children. The Syechelles is the highest, and I have to wonder what the heck is going on there.)

So, since we seem to find it necessary to imprison so much of our population, what does that say about oppression at home?

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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.

THGRRI

Sunday, January 11, 2015 9:40 PM

Right on G….

I suggested in another post perhaps on another thread, that SIGNYM starts threads about injustices not because of concerns for the little guy, but instead as a spear head for an attack on this country and Europe. I mean think about it. As much as you can find things in America and Europe to complain about that points to the little guy getting screwed, you can use that same information to compare things in Russia and show they are much worse off. Yet with SIGNYM it is not on her agenda to point that out. I would remind some here about her support for Russia’s backing of Bashar al-Assad, the butcher of Syria, or for the ruling class in Iran.

SIGNYM again you are talking apples vs oranges. In America and Europe we are free. In Russia, Iran and Syria they are not. There is no form of life lower than that of someone who enjoys freedom taking up the cause of a government that does not extend it to their own population. You SIGNYM and 1KIKI are RATS.

SIGNYM

Sunday, January 11, 2015 10:34 PM

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It's very obvious she does not care about the Russian people - how could she support a government like that if she did? -G

Have you even read my previous posts about injustice, and WHY I point to the USA?

Apparently not with comprehension, or you wouldn't keep making the same stupid points over and over again.

First of all, there are those sheer numbers of people killed, impoverished or displaced. If you were to take a OBJECTIVE look at the USA against all of the other nations in the world - Russia, China, Israel and the Saudi/Qatari-funded radicals included ... heck, make sure to include any and all of the "bad guys" that I'm sure you'd like to point a finger to - the reality is that the United States has killed, injured, displaced, impoverished, and imprisoned FAR MORE than any other nation in the past 50 years. Not only has the USA done this in the "historical past", it continues to do this TODAY. I cannot find a single thing that Russia or China has done that even comes close. Not even Pol Pot in his heyday did the kind of damage we do. Yanno, I know this just seems like so much noise to you, but that's the problem: your concern for people is on a sliding scale: If they're people WE'VE killed, they don't count, but if it's something (your current bogeyman) Russia has done, you get out the magnifying glass.

I don't need to provide a link to all of the "interventions" that the USA has committed, where we overthrew democratically-elected governments and replaced them with tyrants who would represent our banks and industries better (although I've already done that). All I need to do is look at our military expenditures compared to "everyone else", SO TAKE A CLOSE LOOK. (I'm typing in caps because I hope that these points will stick this time)

Looks specifically for Russia and China. Where do they fall on the chart???

In the grand scheme of things, they do NOT have the world-straddling military that we do. They are NOT about to "take over the world", as WE have done. All they have is enough for defense of their nearby area.

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Second, it's a case of responsibility. I have no authority over what Russia does or what China does. As much as I absolutely despise what Israel does ... and I do despise them for running the largest open-air prison since the Warsaw Ghetto ... I'm not here railing about them because it's not my country, even though they ARE the largest recipients of our "foreign aid". I'm not here railing about Saudi Arabia or Qatar either, although they DO provide a fuckuva lot money to al Qaida and ISIS, and Saudi Arabia IS a religious tyranny and our nominal ally.

Nope, I look at the USA because THIS is where my tax dollars go, as G has pointed out more than once, and THIS is where I get a chance to vote.

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In America and Europe we are free.

I would like you to think about that for a while.

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In Russia, Iran and Syria they are not.

Nor are they free in Saudi Arabia, Palestine, Bahrain.

Not free on Jordan. Not free in Iraq, Libya, or Afghanistan either ... and, wow, WHO set up that situation? Many EU nations have no control over their budgets and economies, with the IMF, EC, and ECB forcing them into a literal great-depression-level of poverty.

God, you guys are fucking morons, with apologies to the mentally challenged who are far and away better human beings that you are.

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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.

THGRRI

Sunday, January 11, 2015 10:52 PM

We talk about freedom and the plight of the oppressed and you post subjectively about the defense budget of America. Once again nothing about those who live under the thumb of dictatorships and the worst of the worst who practice nothing but corruption. Nope, instead just another attack against the west.

Bombs and guns helps keep Russia out. Do you have enough to meet this threat???

SIGNYM

Sunday, January 11, 2015 10:59 PM

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We talk about freedom and the plight of the oppressed and you post subjectively about the defense budget of America.

MY GOD, THUGR ARE YOU BEING STUPID ON PURPOSE??? Do you have ANY idea what the word "subjective" means?

There is nothing MORE subjective than freedom and oppression. There is nothing MORE objective than number of dead, and dollars spent. YOU'RE the one being subjective.

Holy crap, batman, I'm aghast at your ignorance.

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Bombs and guns helps keep Russia out.

Of where? The USA? Do you see Russia planning to invade some time in the near future?

Jesus, my jaw dropped when I read your post. I'm going to have to pick it up off the floor. It's clear that I'm trying to communicate with someone who's at the level of bot. I have more important things to do than try and discuss with someone who insists on being a tool.

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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.

THGRRI

Sunday, January 11, 2015 11:00 PM

Yeah right.

Bombs and guns helps keep Russia out. Do you have enough to meet this threat???

MAL4PREZ

Sunday, January 11, 2015 11:14 PM

Typical. Sig can not discuss Russia and Russia alone. Every thread has to turn into a dump on the US and Europe and whoever is the enemy of Russia, as if the very well-known flaws of the western world excuse any and all of the insane bullshit the Russian government does. Like a RWA brain, she is incapable of staring straight at the authority she worships. Her brain deflects, every time.

And because the non blind here are able to discuss the flaws of one system without the constant deflections, she invents this idea that we all worship western govts. Like rappy, she cannot understand what it is to live in a non-RWA brain. We can stay on one topic, where she can't fathom it. Unless we worship like she does.

I read an article about something oddly related, about how people ruled by emotion can't dispassionately discuss hot topics, while logical brains can go there without being freaked. I've yet to see the sig brain focus purely on Russia and its flaws without going directly to: "oh yeah, well the US / Ukraine does THIS...."

Never mind that this site is full of threads where every one of us air our grievances at the fcukedupedness of the US govt and economy with nary a mention of Mother Russia....

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THGRRI

Sunday, January 11, 2015 11:18 PM

Well said, yep well said.

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