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Monday, May 7, 2018 1:27 AM

"I've heard stories where arthritic and joint pain almost disappeared overnight"

My story isn't overnight, but within 3 days.

Long story - there's a young guy at work who was in a serious car accident - rear-ended by a cement truck sitting at a stoplight.

Anyway, we were talking about the two kinds of pain. There's the pain 'out there' somewhere, in your knee or your hand. It hurts, and sometimes even a lot, but it's out there and you can deal with it ok.

And then there's the other pain that just grinds into your brain. It doesn't even need to be intense, but there's something about it that affects your entire being.

I had the second type since at least the age of 35. Then about 2 years ago I stopped using olive oil and changed to sunflower oil. And just like that - like a switch - the grinding pain was 95% gone in 3 days. And while I still have arthritis and bursitis and their pains, it's out there in my joints.

My point is that people can be reacting to something VERY specific - completely idiosyncratic - and something that general advice doesn't address.




So anyway ... anyone up for a rational, fact-based, and civil discussion about the topic?

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Monday, May 7, 2018 6:30 AM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
"I've heard stories where arthritic and joint pain almost disappeared overnight"

My story isn't overnight, but within 3 days.

Long story - there's a young guy at work who was in a serious car accident - rear-ended by a cement truck sitting at a stoplight.

Anyway, we were talking about the two kinds of pain. There's the pain 'out there' somewhere, in your knee or your hand. It hurts, and sometimes even a lot, but it's out there and you can deal with it ok.

And then there's the other pain that just grinds into your brain. It doesn't even need to be intense, but there's something about it that affects your entire being.

I had the second type since at least the age of 35. Then about 2 years ago I stopped using olive oil and changed to sunflower oil. And just like that - like a switch - the grinding pain was 95% gone in 3 days. And while I still have arthritis and bursitis and their pains, it's out there in my joints.

My point is that people can be reacting to something VERY specific - completely idiosyncratic - and something that general advice doesn't address.




So anyway ... anyone up for a rational, fact-based, and civil discussion about the topic?


I know type two pain. I felt that when I landed flat on my back and nearly cracked it in half when I slipped on my stairs while I was drinking. Not being able to sleep for 3 days straight and in absolute agony no matter what position you were in with no relief. Pain two, for me, is wanting to die.

I'd say the pains I'm talking about are type one. They can be pretty brutal after a long day of work, and I've noticed they can be even worse in my left leg if I've been on the forklift for any extended period of time because of the pressure plates under your feet that were probably designed for 200lbs people and I have to "work" at getting them to do what they're supposed to do. But these are the pains that become your new normal over time. They're not pleasant, but you can compartmentalize them to the point that they're not much more than background noise. They're only really noticeable to me when I think about how I'd like to play guitar again, but it's too painful to be enjoyable.


I've still got hope that it's the gluten. Here I was thinking that I was gluten free now, and I'm eating a half a box of Life cereal everyday.

I'm too cheap to throw out good food, so my gluten free diet starts next week.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, May 7, 2018 6:33 AM

Hearing aids are in. Will make an appointment tomorrow to see about fitting them.

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Monday, May 7, 2018 6:51 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I've still got hope that it's the gluten. Here I was thinking that I was gluten free now, and I'm eating a half a box of Life cereal everyday.

I'm too cheap to throw out good food, so my gluten free diet starts next week.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Give it a good try! Even if you only notice *some* improvement, it's still an improvement! Having only *some* improvement means you probably need to pursue another thing to fix in addition. But, from serious experience, I can say that if after 5 weeks you're still equivocating - I think it's a little better ... - it's not working. Don't be afraid to move on and try something new.




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Monday, May 7, 2018 6:53 AM

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Originally posted by Brenda:
Hearing aids are in. Will make an appointment tomorrow to see about fitting them.

YAY !!




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Monday, May 7, 2018 8:57 AM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
Hearing aids are in. Will make an appointment tomorrow to see about fitting them.

YAY !!




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Kiki, 1 sentence: I don't wanna!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Monday, May 7, 2018 10:55 AM

I have them. I got tired of not being able to hear what people were saying.

My hearing used to be not just good - it was phenomenal. My eyes were good. But, age happened.




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Monday, May 7, 2018 11:24 AM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
I have them. I got tired of not being able to hear what people were saying.

My hearing used to be not just good - it was phenomenal. My eyes were good. But, age happened.




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I've had ear problems since I was a child. It was just not something I thought about.

Given that I survived a brain tumour and where it was, it shouldn't surprise me that my hearing on the left side is almost gone. Had glasses since I was in high school and I hate them as well.

It's just arrrrgghhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Monday, May 7, 2018 1:50 PM

I know about the glasses thing, at least somewhat. Whatever grade it was where you go from block print to cursive, my eyes went suddenly, terribly bad. And the ophthalmologist couldn't get a bead on the scrip, since every 6 months my left eye was different from the 6 month exam before. It would make wild swings, nearsighted to farsighted, and back again.

Then when I was 18 I got a scrip I just couldn't get used to. Maybe it was mis-filled. Anyway, I stopped wearing glasses. But age-related nearsightedness hit me early, before 40.

And I've always had floaters, but now they're so bad I can hardly see. No correction seems to make up for that.

But all in all, the bad hearing and vision, arthritis and bursitis, are acceptable so far. And thank god I found an answer for the pain. The asthma and terrible fatigue though ... now those are things I could do without.




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Monday, May 7, 2018 5:45 PM

Yeah... Floaters aren't fun. I started getting them in my mid 20's. I asked my eye doctor if there was anything that could be done about it and they told me in short the answer was no. I could elect for some pretty risky eye surgery to take care of it, but I probably couldn't even find an eye doctor that would do it unless it got way worse than it is now.

Most of the time I dont' even notice them. It's just that when you do, you can't stop noticing them. You know how it is.




About the diet. Once I'm sure I've gone without gluten for about 5 weeks if things haven't improved, I'll let you know. My diet is super boring right now and only consists of a handful of things. I'm not calorie counting or anything, so I just kind of eat until I'm satiated. I probably eat more than I used to, but because I've been so active and I'm not putting on any weight, I'm not really worried about overeating or anything.

Maybe at that point you'd have some suggestions for me to change things up. It shouldn't be too hard since I really only eat about less than 10 things right now.

What can I say... I'm a creature of habit. At least the habit is infinitely healthier than the 10 or so things I used to eat. :)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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