In the garden, and RAIN!!!!
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UPDATED: Thursday, December 25, 2025 04:27
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I think that's a good idea. There are sort of levels of pain, and the trigger as to what could use a professional visit is if it affects your normal functioning - ie you either have to do things differently than normal, or you've given up doing them at all.
How's the bleach taste/smell doing, by the way?
And I know you said you had some stuff to do today, and your mouth project starts tomorrow - how was today? Everything go smoothly? And good luck tomorrow with your mouth!
BTW, this isn't an entirely random question - did you have chickenpox as a kid, or did you get the vaccine?
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The pain has never been bad enough that I haven't been able to do things. It was really annoying last night though, even though I did manage to work hours after the sun had set.
I'm just a worrier by nature though, and over the years and all the abuse I've become pretty in tune with my body and what it's trying to tell me. Especially now that I'm sober. This just doesn't seem like something run of the mill is all.
I did have that terrible fall down the stairs while I was drinking heavily all those years ago, and come to think of it, I have been sneezing quite a lot lately. It was a sneeze back then that made the pain about 10 times as bad a week or so after the fall that pretty much kept me bed ridden for about a month. Maybe the fact that I'm not as physically active as I was at the old job combined with a few bad sneezes did it to me now? It certainly does hurt when I sneeze right now, and it's in the very same spot that I had fallen back then.
The bleach thing is done. It went away pretty much before I went to sleep last night. I wasn't really worried about it after I was able to smoke without any ill effects. I don't think that it was good that I got to that point last night, but it was nowhere near the level of toxicity I had subjected myself to the last time years ago.
Today went great. 
Hopefully tomorrow goes well...
Yeah. I had chicken pox and the vaccine. If you're wondering if I'm suffering from shingles, nope. I've had those before, and they're not fun. That is not what this is. 
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Yeah, I WAS wondering about shingles. I've had them too, more than once, and sometimes it's just this subterranean pain that runs along a nerve tract, that never quite gets to the blister stage, except maybe a leeeetle one or two you wouldn't really notice.
I think it's really hard to evaluate oneself medically. Either you're in denial out of fear, or you're hyper-worried out of fear. Besides knowledgeable, you have to be pretty cold-blooded and unreactive to do it right.
Anyway, I'm glad you have a trigger level and a plan to see someone !!! That seems like a good place to be ! 
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Sorry to hear that you've had them too. :(
Yeah. Those subdermal ones are the ones that I've had before. Left a few hardly noticeable "tracks" on my back while they were there, but were annoying as hell as I suffered through them.
You know I didn't see a doctor for that either.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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The worst shingles I had I did have a HUGE, +1' wide swathe of deep, deep blisters from my spine to my sternum. And I DID go to a doctor when it started not because it hurt, but because I felt so allover crappy. They very quickly determined I was allergic to Zovirax which would have knocked to virus out. (My neighbor took Zovirax for her shingles that ran down her sciatic nerve from her butt to her heel, and from start to finish it lasted about a week.) Anyway, they did give me codeine/Tylenol, and though I was actively weaning myself off them the whole time, the pills ran about the same time the shingles did about 6 weeks later. It was gnarly. I'm just glad it wasn't anywhere near my eye.
Given that I know I can't take the anti-virals, I did get the shingles vaccine, (I paid for it myself because it wasn't covered and it was well over $200 at the time. I have no idea what it would be now.) and plan on getting the newer one, now that it'll be covered.
This might be TMI, but generally shingles heals well, although up to 15% can have chronic pain as a residual. Mine seems to have destroyed a patch of subcutaneous tissue, because while I have normal skin I do have a rather large deep divot in my back.
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Geez... Sorry to hear that.
Mine was mild by comparison. Quite a bit of pain and a general not good feeling, but it only lasted a few weeks and didn't leave any permanent pain or cosmetic problems behind.
I've read that if you get them once, you're pretty much bound to get them again though. Hopefully I'm as lucky the next time they pop up.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Hey all, hd a service outage that lasted quite a long time! No phone, no inet, no TV. Good thing we have a different mobile service provider otherwise we might have been sol. I noticed a couple Spectrum trucks while walking the dog so being a nosy person I asked them what happened. Apparently our local power company cut the power to THEIR service, and Spectrum had a generator in one of those trucks, powering their service until our electrical utility could turn the juice back on.
With the service back on I called a Habitat and St Vincent de Paul for donation pickup. But in looking at the garage door, which we will have to open so they can have access, hubby noticed that ... aside from having a metric crap-ton of wood piled against it, one of the springs had broken. So dd and I did the monthly recycling and boogied down to HD to get replacment springs and "C" clips, and now I know more about garage door srpings than I ever thought possible, including the fact that there is no way in hell I could ever stretch one out by myself to pull over the C clip!
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SIX ... when evaulating pain, aside from figuring out EXACTLY where it is and whether it inteferes with daily activities and/or sleep, there is the "what makes it worse/ what makes it better" metric. I have never had kidney pain, but it seems to me that if the pain gets better with rest and worse with motion, then it's probably not kidney or any internal organ.
Here is a back pain v kidney pain website
https://www.healthline.com/health/kidney-pain-vs-back-pain
Most likely you're dealing with a muscle spasm. Another possibility is that one of the nerves that emerges directly from your spine (they ennervate your arms and wrap around your torso) could be pinched.
I've had ongoing muscle spasms that have lasted for weeks, and one thing that has alwasy set them right - much better than ibuprofen/tylenol, stretching, warm showers or oointment are those chemical heating pads .... essentially iron powder which warms as it turns to rust. Put one on directly over the pain on clean skin just before bed, wear a tight-fitting Tshirt to help hold it in place, and you should feel better ... not completely well, but better ... 12 hours later. Another heating pad the next night should do the trick.
If it's a pinched nerve (radiculopathy) it's usually positional ... something you're doing while sitting at the computer, sleeping, or standing. Having had a couple of rounds of radiculopathy I can tell you that the pain is grinding, and nothing ... and I mean nothing ... not ibuprofen or tylenol or hydrocodone or heating pads or oinment .... made it better except 150 mg of Lyrica (specifically Rx'd for nerve-based pain).
In my case, it was related to bad glasses ... I had to crane my neck towards the paper because the focal length was too short. If you've been sitting awkwardly at the computer, that could really do a number on your nerves! The fix for that is to adjust your seating/sleeping/standing situation/posture.
I hope that helps!
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Glad you're back up and running.
I dunno. It could be one of those things. Admittedly, my current setup with that all-in-one computer is not ideal for long times sitting down in front of it. And I did spend the better part of a week doing exactly just that.
Maybe it didn't bother me while I was working the old job because I was getting such a great workout all the time and was in better shape. This would mark the first time since my unemployment where I spent so many hours just sitting on a futon with a computer on a coffee table in front of me.
I dunno though. It just seems "deeper" than muscular to me. I'll just have to keep an eye on it for now and maybe try to take better care of myself.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Don't forget the pinched nerve scenario!
I'd try the heat pads anyway. One of the things I like to do is try different common remedies and add that to the list of "what makes it worse/better" because that itself can be diagnostic. Does it respond to ibuprofen? Heat? Rest? Gentle motion? Ice? Change position? More water?
DD had an unusual persistent deep "pinpoint" ache in her calf, and one thing that sprang to my mind was deep vein thrombosis, but I tried the heat pads anyway and it went away, so I could safely rule out that scary possibility!
Just a thought.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
I'd nuke a BILLION PEOPLE if it would save the other 7 billion from living under Putin. Hell, I might go all the way to the last 100 people on Earth to keep this planet from being under fascist rule.- WISHIMAY
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