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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
as long as you maintain goals that are mutally exclusive (i.e warmomgering v fighting climate change; supporting the DNC v solving america's problems; expecting progress from monopolism ) you'll continue to torture logic and objectivity trying to rationlize irrationality.
SECOND: Let me pick one of your complaints about me: Warmonger. The Russians have murdered 4 million Ukrainians...
HEY, Nazis killed 6 million Jews, a million other Europeans and 25 million Russians.
I have an idea! Let's go kill us some Germans!
Or here's another one: Americans killed an estimated 9-15 million natives in the course of N America's conquest. Let's kill us some Americans!
Yanno, you can't redress historic injustices. The individuals responsible for them ARE DEAD. And most definitely, you can't achieve peace thru war, unless you want to kill everyone and achieve the peace of a graveyard.
WE destroyed nations, rampaging across the globe from Indochina and the Pacific to the Mideast, Africa, and Central and South America, killing millions. Maybe a hundred million. And I don't mean in the long-distant past. It was about "fighting communism" or " the drug war" or "WMD!" or "global war
Bc, really, it was all just about the petrodollar, the unipolar moment, and global domination!
Ukraine is just another one of our proxy wars toward the destruction of Russia, and the EU is just another economic battlefield. And Taiwan could be the proxy battlefield against China.
So, back to the issue at hand: you can't be a warmonger and say you're fighting global climate change, and you can't expect progress from monopolies and oligarchs.
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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger
Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM
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Quote:A quibble over the words "fighting global climate change". There is nothing to fight. For example, you don't "fight" obesity by attacking McDonald's for selling french fries. Instead, you live on a diet. You eat less. You don't drink McDonald's milkshakes. And at the end of the process, when you have digested a small, not large, amount of McDonald's food, you don't dump your waste onto the street. Instead, use a toilet. The fossil fuel industry, unlike McDonald's, does NOT HAVE THE EQUIVALENT OF A TOILET FOR WASTE CO2! We are being buried alive under trillions of tons of CO2, a million times more waste than all the fully digested french fries eaten and excreted by humans.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, back to the issue at hand: you can't be a warmonger and say you're fighting global climate change, and you can't expect progress from monopolies and oligarchs.
If only CO2 waste was solid it would make a pile bigger and heavier than all the mountain ranges on Earth. It would be so very obvious that man has taken the biggest bowel movement the Earth has ever known. It is a huge mess that needs to be cleaned up before landslides of CO2 waste bury all civilization.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Toyota Is Right: We Need More Hybrid Cars and Fewer EVs. Here’s Why
The auto industry is going all-in on EVs, but a more effective way to lower emissions quickly is staring us in the face.
by James Gilboy| PUBLISHED Jul 6, 2023 1:30 PM EDT
https://www.thedrive.com/features/toyota-is-right-we-need-more-hybrid-
cars-and-fewer-evs-heres-why
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Quote:1) Germany already received its punishment when 7 million Germans were killed.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
1) HEY, Nazis killed 6 million Jews, a million other Europeans and 25 million Russians.
I have an idea! Let's go kill us some Germans!
2) Or here's another one: Americans killed an estimated 9-15 million natives in the course of N America's conquest. Let's kill us some Americans!
3) Yanno, you can't redress historic injustices. The individuals responsible for them ARE DEAD. And most definitely, you can't achieve peace thru war, unless you want to kill everyone and achieve the peace of a graveyard.
2) What killed 90% of Native Americans?
They had never experienced smallpox, measles or flu before, and the viruses tore through the continent, killing an estimated 90% of Native Americans.
3) During the Civil War, the Confederates, unlike the Germans, did NOT receive the death sentences they earned. Seven million dead Confederates would be approximately the right price for them to pay. Instead, slave-owning President Andrew Johnson pardoned the Confederates because he and they were on the same side. This is the real reason why Critical Race Theory is attacked by Neo-Confederates. CRT is a reminder the old Confederates did NOT pay even 1% of what they should have paid for all the destruction the Confederates caused. At the very least, there should not be any schools in the US named after General Robert E Lee or any other Confederate.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:And even more Russians were killed. So what?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
1) HEY, Nazis killed 6 million Jews, a million other Europeans and 25 million Russians.
I have an idea! Let's go kill us some Germans!
2) Or here's another one: Americans killed an estimated 9-15 million natives in the course of N America's conquest. Let's kill us some Americans!
3) Yanno, you can't redress historic injustices. The individuals responsible for them ARE DEAD. And most definitely, you can't achieve peace thru war, unless you want to kill everyone and achieve the peace of a graveyard.
SECOND: 1) Germany already received its punishment when 7 million Germans were killed.
Justice doesn't work that way.
Quote:Disease acquired while soldiers, colonists and settlers stole their land by force of arms and broke treaty after treaty. "Not one inch westward" or its equivalent was in quite a few of those treaties. It was genocide SECOND. And that injustice can't be redressed bc those responsible ARE DEAD.
SECOND: 2) What killed 90% of Native Americans?
They had never experienced smallpox, measles or flu before, and the viruses tore through the continent, killing an estimated 90% of Native Americans.
Quote:*Commanding officers and polticians? Soldiers? Slave owners? All white adults? All white children?
SECOND: 3) During the Civil War, the Confederates, unlike the Germans, did NOT receive the death sentences they earned. Seven million dead Confederates
would be approximately the right price for them*
Quote:All dogs are animals. Not all animals are dogs. Critical race theory may be attacked by neo-Confederates, but not everyone who attacks CRT is a neo-Confederate.
to pay. Instead, slave-owning President Andrew Johnson pardoned the Confederates because he and they were on the same side. This is the real reason why Critical Race Theory is attacked by Neo-Confederates.
Quote:Yanno, the Confederate Army killed a lot of whites, too. Bc as I recall, the northern army was white.
CRT is a reminder the old Confederates did NOT pay even 1% of what they* should have paid for all the destruction the Confederates caused.
First of all, I noticed that you avoided our recent "wars of choice".. wars for which many responsible individuals are still alive and can still be held accountable. When justice is possible, you avoid it.
For some strange reason, you prefer collective guilt and collective punishment (which, BTW is a war crime) and call for genocide (another war crime) to "redress" historic crimes. Thinking of people as categories and calling for categorical punishement is the same as saying all blacks are violent and all Muslims are jihadist. Worse, you want to punish entire categorie for historic wrongs. You still seem to think that "justice" can be reached for wrongs committed generations ago.
It can't. The best anyone can do is pursue punishment for the guilty who are still alive, and avoid perpetuating injustice in the future
BTW, CRT is an issue bc prejudice is still alive and well in the USA, which can't be fixed by privilege for blacks and prejudice against other races, it can only be fixed by equality of opportunity and blind justice/blind meritocracy.
Also... JOBS would really help.
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Antarctic ice levels undergo ‘massive decrease’, data shows
https://www.reuters.com/world/antarctic-ice-levels-undergo-massive-dec
rease-data-shows-2023-07-10/
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DAILY SCIENCE
The U.S. Inflation Reduction Act is bigger and more far-reaching than you think
In the most extensive analysis to date, researchers ran nine different models to estimate the IRA’s impacts on the U.S. energy system and economy.
By Sarah DeWeerdt, July 11, 2023
Landmark climate legislation passed in the United States in 2022 could nearly halve the U.S. economy’s overall emissions compared to 2005 levels by 2035, according to a new analysis. But on its own, it still won’t be sufficient to meet the country’s pledges under the Paris Agreement.
The Inflation Reduction Act (IRA) is possibly the most significant piece of U.S. climate legislation yet. Its provisions include tax credits for clean energy, energy storage, and carbon capture; measures to promote energy efficiency, reduce methane emissions, develop domestic supply chains, and ensure environmental justice; and many others.
In fact, the IRA is so big and complex that its effects on the energy system and economy can’t simply be totted up but instead must be analyzed using powerful computer models. In the new study, the most extensive effort yet to get a handle on the legislation’s impact, researchers used nine different models to estimate the likely impacts of the IRA’s most important provisions.
The models varied in their scope (six encompassed the entire U.S. energy system while the remaining three only included the electricity sector) and level of detail. Some of the models were used to inform discussion prior to the IRA’s passage, and others were added new for this analysis. The researchers analyzed the similarities and differences between the predictions of the different models, and compared them to a hypothetical scenario in which the IRA had not been passed.
By 2035, overall emissions of the U.S. economy are likely to be 43 to 48% lower than they were in 2005, the researchers report in the journal Science. Without the IRA, emissions would be 27-35% below 2005 levels, they calculated. This is one of several findings that indicate the IRA is likely to accelerate existing trends in the economy. In short, the green transition is already happening, but the IRA speeds it along.
The models show that on average, nearly two-thirds of the emissions reductions come from the power sector. Electricity emissions will fall to an average of 68% below 2005 levels in 2030, and 87% below 2005 levels by 2035. Without the IRA, power sector emissions would fall by only about half of 2005 levels by 2035.
The IRA will spur lots of solar and wind power development. On average, the models indicate that solar and wind generating capacity will grow by 58 gigawatts per year from 2021 through 2035 – more than twice the growth rate without the legislation, and greater than the record installation of 33 gigawatts in 2021.
The IRA will also reduce transportation-related emissions by encouraging adoption of electric vehicles (EVs). The models predict on average that EVs will make up 41% of all cars and light trucks sold in 2030, compared to 31% in the scenario without the IRA and way up from 7% of all sales in 2022.
The reduction in fossil fuel use means that American households and businesses will spend more on electricity, but less on energy overall. Households could pay $13 to $190 less for energy per year by 2030 and $73 to $370 less by 2035, compared to the scenario without the IRA, the researchers found.
Like most other nations, the United States has made pledges to reduce carbon emissions in line with the Paris Agreement’s goal to hold global warming to 2 °C. But also like most other nations, the country is not on track to fulfill these promises.
The United States has set a goal of reducing greenhouse gas emissions by at least 50% by 2030. Without the IRA, the country will fall short of that goal by 1.0 to 1.6 gigatonnes of carbon dioxide per year, according to the analysis. The IRA narrows this emissions gap to 0.5 to 1.1 gigatonnes per year.
“Although IRA accelerates decarbonization, including beyond 2030, no models indicate
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end the war in ukraine
eliminate pentagon's overseas presence
eliminate private jets
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The Rocky Mountain Institute released a report today forecasting that solar and wind are growing so fast and getting so cheap that they're now on track to produce 30% of all electricity by 2030 and upwards of 70-85% by 2050:
If we can do this, we'd be at net zero emissions by 2050, and RMI thinks it's well within reason. That's still not enough to rein in global warming completely, since there's more to emissions than just electricity, but it would certainly be a start.
https://jabberwocking.com/net-zero-by-2050/
https://rmi.org/press-release/renewable-energy-deployment-puts-global-
power-system-on-track-for-ambitious-net-zero-pathway/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Why Exxon Mobil is spending $4.9 billion on a company that pumps carbon dioxide back into the earth
Exxon Mobil this week announced plans to acquire oil producer Denbury. Denbury also has a business of capturing carbon-dioxide emissions.
Some of that captured CO2 could be put to use by other industries, including makers of fertilizers and other chemicals. Most of the captured carbon dioxide will likely be stored underground, however.
The IEA estimates that if the world achieves net-zero emissions by 2050, less than 5% of the carbon captured would be used, while the rest would need to be stored.
Transporting CO2 requires pipelines, and Denbury has 1,300 miles of carbon dioxide pipelines; much of its network spans Louisiana, Texas, and Mississippi. Denbury also already has 10 sites where it stores carbon.
The purchase would help Exxon go deeper into this business.
The deal with Denbury is one of several carbon-capture and storage deals Exxon has made in less than a year, including a plan to capture, transport, and store carbon emissions from a steelmaking plant in Louisiana by 2026.
Exxon has carbon-capture and storage facilities in the US, Qatar, and Australia, and at least 10 more have been announced around the world.
The IEA said that even if all the planned sites come online by 2030, the entire industry combined would only be capturing about one-third of the carbon dioxide needed to hit net-zero emissions by midcentury. – https://www.iea.org/energy-system/carbon-capture-utilisation-and-stora
ge
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/why-exxon-mobil-is-spending-4-
9-billion-on-a-company-that-pumps-carbon-dioxide-back-into-the-earth/ar-AA1dSP0n
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