So, Geezer, rappy, in your ideal world, what should happen?
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"1kiki said GREATEST govt control. To me, that implies govt all up in one's life, 24/7."
No, WE have that, thanks to the NSA.
That's part of the equation, yes, but I also see that as an offshoot into a different topic all together. One area is how much should we rely on govt to be a part of our every day lives, while another would be the intrusive nature of govt.
It's one thing for govt to feed, house, educate, and " provide " for us, and quite another for it to be tapping our phones, e-mail and tracking us where ever we go.
The NSA seems to be one area where pretty much all sides can at least have SOME agreement.
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.
" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
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Quote:They are so obsessed with the whole good guy vs. Bad guy GAME that they can't see the reality that they have crossed the line themselves into a threat to National Security by taking focus off REAL (potential) problems in favour of perpetuating and GROWING their organization.
Originally posted by AURaptor:
The NSA seems to be one area where pretty much all sides can at least have SOME agreement.
That's like MI6 having OO7, OO17, OO3056....
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
It's one thing for govt to feed, house, educate, and " provide " for us, and quite another for it to be tapping our phones, e-mail and tracking us where ever we go.
The NSA seems to be one area where pretty much all sides can at least have SOME agreement.
"I think the Patriot Act was a needless expanse of US Gov't. True. But so far, it's not denied anyone their rights."
"Why is it when ever this President tries to do something which helps protect this country from a very real threat of ISLAMIC terrorism, a specific group of whiners tries to portray it as a fate worse than getting your head cut off ? Whether it's disrupting the financial transactions of terrorist groups, intercepting their phone calls or trying to get relevant information out of those who have sworn to murder as many innocent men/women and children as possible, some still see it as a violation of OUR rights that this Gov't should take steps to protect its citizens"
To argue with a man who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead. - Thomas Paine The American Crisis
OONJERAH - We are too dumb to live and smart enough to wipe ourselves out.
"You, who live in any kind of comfort or convenience, do not know how these people can survive these things, do you? They will endure because there is no immediate escape from endurance. Some will die, the rest must live."
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"Why is it when ever this President tries to do something which helps protect this country from a very real threat of ISLAMIC terrorism, a specific group of whiners tries to portray it as a fate worse than getting your head cut off ?"
Whomever said this originally was correct. I spend 2 to 3 days a week fighting off ISLAMIC terrorists in my OWN Condo complex. It's such a chore.
If I wasn't a trained Ninja, I know I'd be dead by now... 
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
"Why is it when ever this President tries to do something which helps protect this country from a very real threat of ISLAMIC terrorism, a specific group of whiners tries to portray it as a fate worse than getting your head cut off ?"
Whomever said this originally was correct. I spend 2 to 3 days a week fighting off ISLAMIC terrorists in my OWN Condo complex. It's such a chore.
If I wasn't a trained Ninja, I know I'd be dead by now...
All the wire tapping and dropping of eaves didn't stop the Boston Marathon bombing, did it ?
Or the Time Square bomber from nearly completing his task of taking out 100's , if not 1000's of New Yorkers.
I guess I could be like the Lefties here, and say " NO COPS, ANYWHERE ! " as some sort of sane, rational response to over reaches of the NSA ?
Despite what some make it out to be, it's not an All-Or-Nothing proposition.
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.
" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
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Quote:No, Red Pill Addict, just GOOD ones not micro-managed by bureaucratic know-nothings. Fill & expand the agencies with yes-men morons and you get 9-11 & the Boston Bombing. NOTHING replaces GOOD people effectively.
Originally posted by AURaptor:
I guess I could be like the Lefties here, and say " NO COPS, ANYWHERE ! " as some sort of sane, rational response to over reaches of the NSA ?
Did you even SEE Skyfall? The message in that film regarding the intelligence communities is absolutely spot on.
Print outs, spread sheets, computer assessments & predictions of likelihood are worthless, as we have seen. Human decision and intent is best interpolated by well trained & seasoned PROFESSIONALS, not computers & sociology majors or Presidents. Guidelines must be in place, but the chain of command is what beats us to our defeat in many cases.
Hire the BEST & trust them.
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Did you even SEE Skyfall? The message in that film regarding the intelligence communities is absolutely spot on.
" Oh dear lord, he's confusing HOLLYWOOD with real life !! "
See, this is the sort of response I'd get if I were to make such a comment.
No, not seen Skyfall yet, but I'd be there are a plethora of movies I could bring up and point to as having similar messages, which we'd likely both agree. Or not.
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.
" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
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Quote:It's just an okay Bond film IMHO, but the message is pretty stellar.
Originally posted by AURaptor:
No, not seen Skyfall yet
Trust the best; second guess/micro manage them to your peril.
(The movie made a billion dollars because of that statement indicating a major distrust of said nonsense in all walks of life both corporate & civil service)
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"I guess I could be like the Lefties here, and say " NO COPS, ANYWHERE ! " as some sort of sane, rational response to over reaches of the NSA ?"
Please find a quote for that.
To argue with a man who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead. - Thomas Paine The American Crisis
OONJERAH - We are too dumb to live and smart enough to wipe ourselves out.
"You, who live in any kind of comfort or convenience, do not know how these people can survive these things, do you? They will endure because there is no immediate escape from endurance. Some will die, the rest must live."
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
"I guess I could be like the Lefties here, and say " NO COPS, ANYWHERE ! " as some sort of sane, rational response to over reaches of the NSA ?"
Please find a quote for that.
Don't have to, because it's an obvious simplified example, and not a direct quote. It's been implied, time and time again, when ever those who want to argue falsely make a claim about my position , on damn near anything.
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.
" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
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