Why Halloween is depressing
POSTED BY: MAL4PREZ
UPDATED: Tuesday, September 9, 2025 06:32
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I tried to put this diplomatically but it ended up being too long in an effort not to offend, so instead I'll just be as blatant as you are; it's none of your business who agrees or disagrees with anyone else on a particular topic, and it has nothing to do with being friends. I wouldn't respect anyone who "sided" with me just to be my friend and I know Mal4 never would, but it does say a hellofalot about you that you think that way.
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And once again you miss the point.
Whether I'm friends with someone or not has nothing to do with whether they side with me in an internet argument. I don't know if you've noticed, but I disagree with most everyone on the board on pretty much everything, and yet I'm still friends with most of them. Rather, friendship has a great deal to do with whether they respect me, and whether I respect them. You and I don't respect each other. Oonj doesn't respect me. And I'm pretty sure Mal4Prez doesn't respect me - pity is a very different thing from respect. I am rejecting her pity and suggesting that she rejoin your circle so that she does not damage her reputation by associating with me.
It's also an objective assessment of the situation. Ship is sinking. Abandon ship.
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Quote:Wait. So why did you recommend that I don't "side" with you? Wow, you're confusing. As to respect:
Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
Whether I'm friends with someone or not has nothing to do with whether they side with me in an internet argument.
"Mal4Prez, you shouldn't side with me. Your friendship with Niki is more valuable than what I can offer."
Is flat out saying that I risk losing Niki's friendship by siding with you. That's some pretty hardcore lack of respect for her and for me. Do you really think is the only reason I would agree or disagree with someone?
You've got one helluva a filter there Byte. As I've said before: someday hopefully you'll let it go and see the world really isn't so ugly and people aren't nearly so focused on you as you think.
And no, the fact that I'm writing a post to you does not mean I'm focused on you. I will get on with my day with hardly more thoughts about this no matter what happens here.
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Is flat out saying that I risk losing Niki's friendship by siding with you.
Yep. Niki does that. She holds friendships hostage in exchange for agreement, and cuts people loose when they don't agree. Just ask Frem.
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Wait. So why did you recommend that I don't "side" with you?
Because I was hoping to not cause harm to you. It doesn't matter to me if no one sides with me, I'm used to that. But siding with me would put you at odds with your other friends.
Whatever. I was trying to offer you helpful advice to avoid a conflict. And even though as usual this ended up the worse for me, equilibrium has been restored.
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Gawd, what a complete crock of SHIT!
You can write anything you want here, Byte, but you DON'T SPEAK FOR ME and I won't let you lie about me! I respect your intelligence, and have said so repeatedly, and make note of particularly astute observations on your part just like I do everyone else. You know that perfectly well.
I love this: "Whether I'm friends with someone or not has nothing to do with whether they side with me in an internet argument." But it works differently for others, so obviously you have no respect for anyone.
Don't start lying about me, which is precisely what you've just done. "She holds friendships hostage in exchange for agreement, and cuts people loose when they don't agree. Just ask Frem" IS A BALD-FACED LIE! Frem and my difficulties were very clear; he called me and others liars, and then went on to accuse me of things which were patently false AND I POSTED THE PROOF. I tried to work things out with him repeatedly, even in private, because to me it was a matter of misunderstanding on his part and lack of respect for my opinion, insofar as he kept attributing things to me WHICH WERE NOT TRUE. HE never responded, and has denigrated me a couple of times since he returned; note that I have not denigrated him ONCE since our disagreement in any way. I'M the one who reached out and tried to work things out with him; these people were here at the time, you can't change the facts to suit your games.
I repeat; on one issue or another, I have agreed with every single detractor I have here, and disagreed with every single person who isn't negative toward me. There is no "circle", there are no "reputations" except how civil people are to one another; agreement and disagreement between people changes with every issue, and that's true for many of us here. Obviously not for you, but your narrow-minded bigotry toward others has nothing to do with how others regard one another. You weren't "trying to offer helpful advice to avoid a conflict", you were attempting to be manipulative; THAT's an "objective assessment", not your "hall monitor" bullshit.
You can play your "Nobody likes me, everybody hates me, I'm gonna go eat worms" game all DAY and it won't get one stitch closer to reality; you want MY advice: give it up. It's gotten terribly old. And I'm not letting you get away with lying about me here with impunity.
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This is nice.
Halloween is bringing everyone together, to hate each other.
"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"
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I'll hold whatever opinion about you that I want to, and say whatever I want to, since it's apparently okay for you to say whatever you want about ME and MY motivations. I respect most of the people on this board except for the people I don't normally talk to for various personal reasons.
You mock me whenever I refuse to agree with you that there might be something positive about the world on the basis that I CAN'T agree because I don't see it and I can't see it, you call me fake, you say I'm playing games when I'm sincere - what is that but terminating a friendship on the basis of a minor internet disagreement? And then, most hurtful of all, you continued to pretend you didn't have a problem with me, and only just now admitted that you think I'm annoying.
Well, I just gave you a REAL reason to have a problem with me. Frem wasn't right to call you a liar about the gun control thing, but it absolutely did wreck whatever friendship the two of you had, and the fault of that was on both sides, as was the inability to mend the differences because it just turned back into the exact same argument. The friendship ended because of a disagreement, and it remains as such because of the continuing disagreement.
I push people away because I know I'm toxic. This was the best possible outcome for most of the people involved here. It is really that simple. And I acted on that. You can make it out to be whatever you want. If you want to call that a game, then I'd say you have a funny definition of what constitutes "fun", but fine, think as you will.
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Originally posted by Storymark:
This is nice.
Halloween is bringing everyone together, to hate each other.
It's only what was always here under the surface.
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No hate on this side, Mark, just a bit of frustration.
"say whatever I want to." In other words, you're stating for the record that if you feel like lying about me, you'll do so whenever you feel like it. Got it. As I already wrote "You can write anything you want here, but I'll call you on your lies every time. I
"You mock me whenever I refuse to agree with you that there might be something positive about the world". Untrue. I DISAGREED with your insistence that the world sucks is "the way it is, period", rather than merely your opinion. Hell, I even agreed that I experience the same thing; difference is, I accept it's my brain, I don't attribute it to everyone.
That is my main disagreement with you every time, that you state things as flat fact, and will brook no opposition, rather than accepting at any time that what you write is your opinion and others might disagree.
I'd suggest you quit while you're behind rather than dig yourself in any deeper. That way you can feel secure in your hatred of me and go back to not engaging me.
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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:Quote:
Originally posted by Storymark:
This is nice.
Halloween is bringing everyone together, to hate each other.
It's only what was always here under the surface.
It was a joke, but I suppose it applies more literally to some...
"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"
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