The Saudi-al Qaida puppet-masters (not PN)
POSTED BY: SIGNYM
UPDATED: Wednesday, November 19, 2025 23:46
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
The links between Israel and the Bush administration were easy to see. The links between the Bush administration and the Saudis... other than their connection over oil... not so much.
The link between Bush 41 and the Saudis might have been personal. Before he was Prez or VP or head of the CIA, Bush 41 was ambassador to Saudi Arabia.
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And Bandar bin Sultan was Ambassador to Washington. But I guess that's not my point- the thing that I really noticed was the Saudi behind-the-scenes involvement in so many things, especially in promoting AQ jihadists across the Mideast.
It never really occurred to me to think about who was behind AQ until I heard Kevin Barrett make the observation that, with so many nations in the ME in shambles (Libya, Egypt, Iraq, and now Syria) providing fertile ground for the various AQ "franchises", none of them has attacked Israel.
And coincidentally, thanks to one of the posters here asking about the petrodollar, I had to look it up. I remembered one part about the deal- that they take our dollars and invest them in Treasuries.... but I forgot about the other part: That we protect them from Israel. And then I glommed onto the weapons shipments that Saudi Arabia was making all over the ME, and the terrorist threats that Bandar bin Sultan (allegedly) made against Putin and definitely made against Blair, and I realized that Saudi Arabia is not a collection of camel jockeys that we've duped into a one-way deal, but an extremely rich nation of Islamic fundamentalists with territorial and resource ambitions of their own... and facing the demise of their oil fields in 10-15 years. And furthermore, AQ is not an out-of-control bunch of nut-jobs. After all, Saudi Arabia has had enough control of their terrorist forces to keep them from attacking Israel for several decades, yes?
Now, I realize this is all heresay, but people are saying this
EXCLUSIVE: Syrians In Ghouta Claim Saudi-Supplied Rebels Behind Chemical AttackQuote:
Rebels and local residents in Ghouta accuse Saudi Prince Bandar bin Sultan of providing chemical weapons to an al-Qaida linked rebel group.
... from numerous interviews with doctors, Ghouta residents, rebel fighters and their families, a different picture emerges. Many believe that certain rebels received chemical weapons via the Saudi intelligence chief, Prince Bandar bin Sultan, and were responsible for carrying out the dealing gas attack.
“My son came to me two weeks ago asking what I thought the weapons were that he had been asked to carry,” said Abu Abdel-Moneim, the father of a rebel fighting to unseat Assad, who lives in Ghouta. Abdel-Moneim said his son and 12 other rebels were killed inside of a tunnel used to store weapons provided by a Saudi militant, known as Abu Ayesha, who was leading a fighting battalion. The father described the weapons as having a “tube-like structure” while others were like a “huge gas bottle.”...
“They didn’t tell us what these arms were or how to use them,” complained a female fighter named ‘K.’ “We didn’t know they were chemical weapons. We never imagined they were chemical weapons.”
“When Saudi Prince Bandar gives such weapons to people, he must give them to those who know how to handle and use them,” she warned. She, like other Syrians, do not want to use their full names for fear of retribution.
A well-known rebel leader in Ghouta named ‘J’ agreed. “Jabhat al-Nusra militants do not cooperate with other rebels, except with fighting on the ground. They do not share secret information. They merely used some ordinary rebels to carry and operate this material,” he said.
“We were very curious about these arms. And unfortunately, some of the fighters handled the weapons improperly and set off the explosions,” ‘J’ said....
And also references nformation about the Saudi's involvement in Syria from more respected sources
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In a recent article for Business Insider, reporter Geoffrey Ingersoll highlighted Saudi Prince Bandar’s role in the two-and-a-half year Syrian civil war. Many observers believe Bandar, with his close ties to Washington, has been at the very heart of the push for war by the U.S. against Assad.
Ingersoll referred to an article in the U.K.’s Daily Telegraph about secret Russian-Saudi talks alleging that Bandar offered Russian President Vladimir PutiNOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Obama has said that there is a panicked phone conversation between someone in Assad's top leadership and a chemical weapons team on the ground (info helpfully provided by Israeli military intelligence) which mentions chemical weapons and Syrian government forces using gas masks. Such very careful wording! I'd love to see a transcript, translated by a neutral party, because I can imagine something like this:
TOP MILITARY COMMAND: Ahmed, you fool! What have you done?
CHEMICAL WEAPONS GUY: Nothing! I swear by the beard of Allah, it wasn't me!
TMC: Are you sure it was chemical weapons?
CMG: Of course! Our soldiers are having difficulty breathing!
TMC: Then don your masks and suits, you fool! We need to figure out exactly what went on, because neither the USA nor Russia are going to be happy about this! In the meantime, we'll bomb the snot out of the rebel held areas until we can make a full assessment.
Obama should make the recording available and provide whatever other intel he has to the UN, just as Russia did. Everyone is skeptical, so full transparency seems the order of the day.
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That would be nice. I don't think it's going to happen. You know what this reminds me of? Right after 9/11 when Bush gets on the air and says 'we have PROOF! it was bin Laden. But we're not gonna' show you. We'll show the UN. Maybe. When the time is right. On second thought ...'
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Whole lotta funny business in this mess, yeah.
Workin on cross-verification, but this here has raised a couple eyebrows.
http://my.telegraph.co.uk/debatableopinion/debatableopinion/16/u-s-int
elligence-agencies-involved-in-chemical-attack-in-syria/
Yanno, it kind of fucking bothers me that these days, the only folks willing to stand up are folk who could be arguably considered worse, but then when any civilized attempt to stand up or blow the whistle is crushed mercilessly as the well trained and conditioned populace laughs in their faces, what do we really have left but bastards...
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"How desperate are you that you would call upon such lost creatures to defend you?"
-Loki
-F
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But the red line has been crossed! Chemical weapons have been used! This cannot be tolerated! The offending party must be held accou ....
Oh, wait. Maybe not
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I read the screen grabs. Wow, need a magnifying glass for that! The emails between Col and his buddy are ambiguous. The emails between the Cols wife and friend... very casual American English until they jump suddenly to the "faked deaths", then the English gets weird. "I see their faces when in sleep"? "I saw it either and got very much afraid?" Really? I think someone inserted those lines, someone who doesn't speak English as a first language.
I did wonder about the pictures of the victims, they didn't look blue or pale, no foam around the mouth or nose, but by then the bodies had already been washed in preparation for burial, so not being a medical professional I'm gonna say that they were real. It's very clear that poison gas WAS used, the only question is: Who supplied it, and who used it?
Just gonna add... you may recall the El Al plane, bound for Tel Aviv, which crashed in Amsterdam lo these many years ago which hit tenament apartments housing many Moluccans. And how many ppl got sick after the plane crash but nobody could figure out why until seven years later when somebody leaked the cargo manifest, which supposedly only contained fruits and perfumes.
Well, this plane crash was interesting for a lot of reasons:
It was similar to the plane crash into the Pentagon because it hit at the base of the apartments, and no- there wasn't much identifiable plane debris visible there either. (see the photo) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Al_Flight_1862
ALL of the news footage and flight documents were scooped up and destroyed within the day by Dutch security forces, just like the control tower FBI interview tapes after 9-11.
But the most interesting part about that El Al crash was the leaked manifest: The Israel-bound plane was carrying at least one ingredient needed to make Sarin, while some say it contained three of four ingredients.
http://www.bollyn.com/el-al-crash-exposes-israels-chemical-weapons-ars
enal
So just to add a name to posible Sarin suppliers, you can add Israel to the usual list of suspects, if Israel wasn't already on it.
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Oh I am fairly sure their grubby little Likudnik fingers are all over this mess, as are ours.
Interesting that the screengrabs changed in between the original posting and what they are now, I didn't get that good a look in the first place though, having a local situation to deal with which was a bit of a mess and a rough go round on top of that which I ain't explainin.
Thing is, this isn't even the first chemical "incident" in Syria over all this - there was an earlier one which they tried to puff up but as I hear it *that* one was some idiot getting careless with an RPG while loyalist and rebel forces fought over a stockpile.
Makes ya wonder if maybe having the stockpiles in the first goddamn place is the bigger problem here, doesn't it - especially given who's selling them the stuff to make it.
I've always thought so myself, given that as a rule chem weapons are not militarily effective in any real sense, in order to obtain necessary lethal concentrations over a wide area you'd almost always be better off using straight explosive, case in point that subway attack in japan, near perfect conditions and still (relatively) minimal casualties - so the only real point of the damn things is as a terror weapon to invoke fear, and if you wanna do that, there's this stuff called white phosphorous, which certain terrorists pretending to be a country like to use on schools and hospitals, but we never call THEM on it, do we ?
Oh, wait, yeah... maybe cause WE GAVE IT TO EM, for free.
Anyways, end of the day, the only thing Chem/Bio weapons are any good for is incapacitating large numbers of *civilians*, something which threw a buncha red flags to me back in the late 80's when we were pretending not to have any stockpiles or programs, while the cabal of the time was pretty blatantly prepping a fascist coup (hindsight is 20/20, and improved information access has made this even more goddamn obvious) which logically determines what exactly they wanted them for.
But it takes a lot of resources to make this shit, to do so without killing your own, store and/or move it safely, and finally deliver it on target for not much more effect, and often much less, than a high explosive shell which is significantly cheaper, easier to store, more durable and reliable.
The media can have its field day flouting bullshit to the ignorant, but anyone who knows the first damn thing about these kinda weapons is...
A. Not Convinced.
B. Suspicious as hell.
C. Annoyed at everyone who should know better lying their asses off.
My take, my suspicion ?
Them genocidal Likudnik fucks bombed a Syrian stockpile - look at the target spread, variance of TYPE of casualty, and affected area... tell me you don't see it.
-F
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oggi-saudis.html
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