"None of it means a damn thing"

POSTED BY: Fireflew
UPDATED: Thursday, June 17, 2004 15:52
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MANTICHORUS

Wednesday, June 9, 2004 11:21 AM

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Originally posted by Ankhagogo:
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Originally posted by manwithpez:
To get back to the thread, here's my humble thoughts.....Why does River seem to be repulsed by Zoe and Wash's lovemaking?

I'm curious as to why you think River's repulsed. I perceived River's reaction as being overwhelmed by their emotions/thoughts, as well as possibly a little frightened by the intensity of them. I think it's unlikely that River herself has experienced those emotions/thoughts/tactile sensations, so it wouldn't be surprising if she were a little freaked out by it.

"Well personally, I kinda want to slay the dragon."

Personally, I thought that the sensations were making her feel slightly high...

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"BADGER: You think you're better than other people.
MAL: Just the ones I'm better than."
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"MAL: Gotta say, doctor, your talent for alienatin' folk is near miraculous.
SIMON: Yes, I'm very proud."

PURPLEBELLY

Wednesday, June 9, 2004 11:51 AM

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Originally posted by Mantichorus:
Personally, I thought that the sensations were making her feel slightly high...

Here's me thinking Joss just wanted to linger on Summer's torso

GHOULMAN

Wednesday, June 9, 2004 12:26 PM

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Originally posted by Fireflew:
Hey everyone. I was (still am - Objects In Space) and Objects in Space was the episode. I watched Objects In Space and got to the part where River "sees" Mal saying, "None of it means a damn thing" - what exactly does this mean?
SNIP!

Sorry to just interject, I haven't read this thread... but I wanted to offer this:

Mal has a deep emptiness. When River saw/heard Mal saying "None of it means a damn thing" it's the same thing Niska saw when Mal said "Do you wanna see the REAL ME!?!".

... think about it, sorry I've little time to elaborate. Cheers!

PURPLEBELLY

Wednesday, June 9, 2004 1:01 PM

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Originally posted by Ghoulman:
"None of it means a damn thing" it's the same thing Niska saw when Mal said "Do you wanna see the REAL ME!?!".

... think about it, sorry I've little time to elaborate. Cheers!

From the script:
MAL
(low, burning rage)
Looks like business ain't running so
much as crawling away...
(deadly)
You wanna meet the "real me" now...?

the verb is important, think about it

GHOULMAN

Wednesday, June 9, 2004 8:14 PM

Hmm. No, I don't see where you're going here PURPLEBELLY.

Myself I'm forwarding the idea that Mal is a broken man. After the war he lost his very soul along with everything else. He is trying to make a new 'world' in Serenity but deep down he fears it's all for nothing. And without it, Mal is nothing. The REAL Mal has nothing to loose. Not even his soul.

... so don't piss him off!

Hmmmmmmm, come to think of it: isn't Mal usually more violent when away from Serenity? Isn't he happier when on Serenity? Hmmmmm.

MANWITHPEZ

Wednesday, June 9, 2004 9:14 PM

It appears to me that every little thought that River catches could mean more than one thing: Book is who I'm really looking at here. Book is one of the crew that River has sorta bonded with. Of course there's Kaylee and Inara. I think, the more River's gift was revealed, the less Inara would have been hanging around her. Back to Book. "I don't give half a hump if you're innocent or not." Could be that's the total truth. Book may not give half a hump. But, the way River interprets it is completely negative. As she does with the rest of the crew. It only occurs to me that Book's may the one that can be taken positively.

Hell, I don't know. Beats me. I've been too bust lately over at x-entertainment.com , looking at reviews of the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parades years 1984-1986. Funny stuff.

Kaylee: "What's so damn important about being proper? It don't mean nothing out here in the black."
Simon: "It means more out here. It's all I have..."

PURPLEBELLY

Wednesday, June 9, 2004 9:35 PM

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Originally posted by Ghoulman:
Hmm. No, I don't see where you're going here PURPLEBELLY.

I've probably read too much Terry Pratchett

PEDME84

Wednesday, June 9, 2004 11:07 PM

i always thought that that line meant that any connection mal and inara might have had is all for nothing. she's just gonna leave.

so what did it all mean? not a damn thing.

- emily

CARDIE

Thursday, June 10, 2004 12:09 PM

Given that OIS is about looking at life from an existentialist perspective, "none of it means a damn thing" is a central tenet of that philosophy.

Cardie

PURPLEBELLY

Thursday, June 10, 2004 1:09 PM

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Originally posted by Cardie:
Given that OIS is about looking at life from an existentialist perspective

'I was fine when existence had no meaning. Meaninglessness in a universe that has no meaning -- that I get. But meaninglessness in a universe with meaning? What does that mean?' :Aaron Tyler[Wonderfalls-Muffin Buffalo]

Wrong show, I know, but Tim Minear was an exec on that one too.

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