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Did Giles Send the Cyborgs?

POSTED BY: ShadowVessel
UPDATED: Wednesday, September 8, 2004 19:06
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Wednesday, September 1, 2004 9:07 PM

I don't think Giles sent the cyborgs. I never did figure out what they had to do with anything though. They never really explained much about them.

As far as Buffy & Co. I think it should have just been explained that they were too busy with tracking down slayers and training them all to help Angel. Angel was too busy to help Buffy. It's not too hard to believe that they were preoccupied as much as he was.

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Friday, September 3, 2004 2:47 PM

they never said that the scoobies hated the fang-gang. just didn't trust anymore. and from somewhere not inside the circle working for W&H was a very very weird thing to do. I had no problem with what Andrew said. he was civil enough, just reserved.

the cyborgs attack was meant to get Angel out of there against his will without actually harming him (nausea aside). and that might have been a plan of the scoobies if only to see what's really going on. if you believe someone switched sides or could have switched sides taking his will with a spell and abducting him from the environment and people you believe responsible for the problem is a good plan.

on a second notion the cyborgs seemed to do too much damaged to the rest of the gang or at least tried to for it to be a scooby plan though. one of them actually almost killed Gunn and there's no good reason for the scoobies to want that. so the assumption is probably false or the attack got out of hand.

the cyborgs were fighting the good fight before though, so they couldn't be sent by the black thorn really. if the black thorn wanted to infiltrate the fang gang with the cyborgs being good it was very poorly done and if they wanted to attack (as they did) they didn't need the cyborgs to seem to be on the good side.

someone just go ahead and ask Joss, we won't find out any other way.

Idefix

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Saturday, September 4, 2004 9:30 AM

Why wouldn't they trust Angel? He gave them the amulet that saved all their asses.

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Wednesday, September 8, 2004 7:06 PM

Exactly. I might could buy Giles, Xander, Andrew, and maybe even Dawn turning against Angel but not Buffy. Xander never trusted Angel. Giles could be swayed easily against Angel considering the torture and the killing of his girlfriend. But Buffy would not have turned on Angel so soon after he helped her. And I'm not sure Giles would be so quick to try something against Angel after how Buffy reacted to him trying to kill Spike. I think they all would have deferred to Buffy on the subject of Angel so as not to have her wrath unleashed on them if they did something to him that she did not like. I just never liked how they painted her and the rest of the gang's feelings toward Angel & Co. It did not seem true to the characters.

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

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