Just how out of touch w/ the US military ARE the Democrats?
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DNC apology for backdrop of Russian ships
By Sam Fellman - Staff writer
Posted : Wednesday Sep 12, 2012 12:17:31 EDT
Democratic officials apologized Wednesday for mistakenly displaying an image of the Russian Navy during a tribute to America’s veterans at last week’s Democratic National Convention. But they also used their response to take a swipe at Republican rival Mitt Romney.
The Russian warships, many of Soviet-era origin, were shown on a giant screen Sept. 6 above 50 veterans while retired Adm. John Nathman honored veterans’ contributions to America. The former sailor who spotted the error and notified Navy Times had asked for an apology.
The Democratic National Convention Committee did just that in a statement Wednesday, but also criticized Romney for failing to mention service members during his convention speech in Tampa, Fla.
“Due to vendor error, incorrect images appeared briefly on screen behind fifty-one veterans during the convention and the DNCC apologizes for this mistake,” the statement said. “This error should not distract from the words of Admiral Nathman and others who spoke to President Obama's strong record on issues that impact those who have served our nation. We're proud of the service and sacrifice of our veterans and military families, and while they were an important and active part our of convention, Mitt Romney failed to even mention them in his speech in Tampa.”
A DNCC spokeswoman said the image of what's believed to be the Russian Black Sea Fleet appeared on screen due to an unspecified “vendor error,” but was unable to say how it had occurred or whether the photo had been digitally altered. Naval experts who reviewed the image believe that the photo is a composite of Russian ships and F-5 trainer jets — which are not used by the Russian Navy — streaking overhead in a maneuver.
Naval experts identified the fourth ship in the column, in the foreground on the right, as the Kara-class cruiser Kerch, which was recently put on a list to be scrapped. The next closest ship, or third in the column, is believed to be the guided missile destroyer Smetlivyy, while there’s less agreement about the more distant first two ships. But based on this specific grouping of these ship classes, one expert concluded that they were most likely the combatant muscle of the Black Sea Fleet.
A.D. Baker III, a former editor of “Combat Fleets of the World” who inspected the image, concluded that three of the four ships in the photo represented the bulk of the Black Sea Fleet's surface combatants. Baker believes the second ship in the line is a Krivak-III-class frigate in the Ukrainian Navy — based upon the position on its helicopter pad and the type of air search radar at the masthead — and surmised the photo was likely taken at least six years ago at a Navy Day parade near Sevastopol, Ukraine, where both the Ukrainian Navy and Russian Black Sea Fleets are based.
One former Air Force pilot told Navy Times in an email that the wing configuration and distinctive formation made it likely that these planes were the Turkish Stars, an aerial demonstration team of the Turkish Air Force. An image he sent appeared to show planes in a very similar formation, however there are slight differences, such as eight planes versus seven in the DNCC image, which could have been edited out.
Many Navy Times readers have cite the image’s erroneous broadcast as evidence that the Democratic Party was out of touch with veterans.
“A retired admiral with a shot of Soviet-era ships behind him,” one reader, who said he was a Navy vet, commented via Facebook. “Is the Democratic Party that far removed that they can’t check up on a simple picture?”
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Yeah, displaying the wrong image for a few seconds is terrible. They would have been better just ignoring the troops alltogether. The Romney way! Because that's being in-touch.
LOL!
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
DNC apology for backdrop of Russian ships
I was more concerned with all the stuff happening in front of the backdrop to worry about what was on screen.
Russian ships? Very bad. The planes could have been Turkish but more likely Ukrainian since the ships are based out of the Black Sea and Ukraine owns the base now and flies F-5s they bought from NATO.
Maybe the message was "look at the crap our enemies have, elect us and we'll have crap too".
I note for the record that the ships and planes were very good when they were in their prime...30-40 years ago.
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Hero...must be right on all of this. ALL of the rest of us are wrong. Chrisisall, 2012
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Originally posted by Storymark:
Yeah, displaying the wrong image for a few seconds is terrible. They would have been better just ignoring the troops alltogether. The Romney way! Because that's being in-touch.
LOL!
Rappyland!
I post facts, and you don't like them, so instead of commenting on the lunacy and incompetence of the Democrats at their convention ( booing god, booing Israel- and then lying about it - , putting up Russian navy ships as a back drop to a retired US Naval officer... ) your ONLY response is to make up some unsubstantiated b.s. about Romney not caring for the troops, and then paint that as " Rappland! "
Fact is, it's 'StorybookLand', where reality gets flipped on its head.
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Romney, by his own admission, doesn't find the troops to be important. That's what HE said.
Sorry you don't like that and can't handle the truth, Rappy, but the fact is, Romney made no mention of the troops at all in his speech, and when asked about it, he said you have to address what's important. Clearly the troops are not important to him at all, even though he said he considers Russia our greatest foe. (Hey, at least he didn't call it the Soviet Union this time; that shows improvement!)
"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero
Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"
Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."
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Riiiiight. Rappy is all facts.... but Im making it up when I refrence the FACT that he didn't talk about the troops at the RNC. Priceless!
And, I didn't ignore your "fact" moron. I aknowledged it. It's right there in what you quoted. That's the opposite of ignoring it.
Meanwhile, I can point to several threads where you vanished as soon as someone posted a fact you didn't like. Priceless.
You really don't grasp irony at all, do you?
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Can't grasp what isn't there, Storybook.
I don't 'vanish', as I'm clearly still here. I just don't have any interest in continuing to kick your ass into the dirt any FURTHER than I already have.
What's done is done.
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Romney, by his own admission, doesn't find the troops to be important. That's what HE said.
Sorry you don't like that and can't handle the truth, Rappy, but the fact is, Romney made no mention of the troops at all in his speech, and when asked about it, he said you have to address what's important. Clearly the troops are not important to him at all, even though he said he considers Russia our greatest foe. (Hey, at least he didn't call it the Soviet Union this time; that shows improvement!)
The two issues are completely separate, totally non related. Romney focused on getting this country back in good financial standing. THAT is a fact. What the Dems did, w/ showing the Russian navy and some training jets.. THAT is the truth, that YOU and Storybook absolutely CAN NOT HANDLE !
So instead, you try to divert attention, distract and dodge the issue.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Can't grasp what isn't there, Storybook.
Which is exactly what someone too stupid to see what is plainly there would say. Predictable as ever.
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I don't 'vanish', as I'm clearly still here. I just don't have any interest in continuing to kick your ass into the dirt any FURTHER than I already have.
What's done is done.
HAHAHAHAHAHA! Shit son, you ain't selling that line of garbage to anyone. Not even your little buddy Zitboy is THAT stupid.
EVERYone knows you bail anytime you can't stand up the the facts. You never beat anyone, you just bail from one thread and start another.
Note to anyone - Please pity the poor, poor wittle Rappyboy. He's feeling put upon lately, what with all those facts disagreeing with what he believes.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
THAT is the truth, that YOU and Storybook absolutely CAN NOT HANDLE !
We handle it just fine. No one denied it (despite your lies). We just don't find it remotely important. You're the only one making this particular molehill into a mountain. As per usual.
Go about your business. We'll continue to laugh at your dumb ass.
Note to anyone - Please pity the poor, poor wittle Rappyboy. He's feeling put upon lately, what with all those facts disagreeing with what he believes.
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