Hunger Games

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UPDATED: Sunday, April 15, 2012 02:38
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FREMDFIRMA

Sunday, March 25, 2012 6:08 PM

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But in almost every case, the new elite simply started running the same extractive institutions for their own benefit. The real battle turned out to have been over who ran the machinery of extraction, not its existence.

This being, essentially, what politics is about - everyone fighting over who gets to hold that leash, and not a one of em willing to cut it.
That is why I am an Anarchist.

Only character even close to that in the story is Johanna Mason, and boy does it cost her, plus, she's not very nice, one might notice.

-F

RIONAEIRE

Tuesday, March 27, 2012 2:19 AM

I really like first person present tense HK, it feels like I'm experiencing things along with the narrator. A lot of the stories I write on fictionpress are in first person present, not as a forray into the metaphysical, but as a vehicle for getting the reader to be in the moment with the charactors. I've read some amazing first person present novels, notably Shabanu and the Bloody Jack novels, lots of fun those.

My dad saw it without me because I was at the zoo that day. I'll see it when it comes out on video I think. I've also decided to give in and read the books, but it will be a long time before I get to them because my booklist is soooooo long.

I assume you're my pal until you let me know otherwise

ANONYMOUSE

Tuesday, March 27, 2012 1:06 PM

Well, I've read The Hunger Games - and I'm in two minds. I still don't like present tense narrative, but the premise was sufficiently intriguing that I'm going to buy the other two books. I'm curious to see what the powers that be have in mind for Katniss after her rebellion, though I imagine they'll 'invite' her back to the Games and then stack the odds against her.

As if they're not high enough already.

PHOENIXROSE

Tuesday, March 27, 2012 4:45 PM

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I'm curious to see what the powers that be have in mind for Katniss after her rebellion, though I imagine they'll 'invite' her back to the Games and then stack the odds against her.

Well, good thing the story isn't too predictable or anything...

What reason had proved best ceased to look absurd to the eye, which shows how idle it is to think anything ridiculous except what is wrong.

TWO

Tuesday, March 27, 2012 6:39 PM

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Well, good thing the story isn't too predictable or anything...

If Panem can slaughter children on TV, then Reaver levels of crazy become reasonable and acceptable military strategy. Allegorically, Panem is the US, which firebombed and twice nuked children, so it's quite predictable when Gale says in Catching Fire,

Select to view spoiler:

“Katniss, there is no District Twelve.”

It is inevitable for the story to go there.

ZZETTA13

Wednesday, March 28, 2012 12:29 PM

Saw the movie yesterday knowing nothing about the books or anything, went in totally blind. Don’t know if it’s by word of mouth, an active advertisement campaign or whatever, but there was a very good crowd for a Tuesday noontime showing.

Like HKC said, I was very pleased. To sum up, it gave me the feeling of a gladiator arena, The Running Man, a bit of a darker twisted Wizard of Oz & Twilight saga all rolled into one.

Enjoyable.

Z

“The only one who can kill Barnes is Barnes!”

ZEEK

Wednesday, March 28, 2012 2:10 PM

If anybody wants a cheap deal on the books in e-book form there's a deal here: http://slickdeals.net/f/4106127-Hunger-Games-Trilogy-ebook-for-4-05-fr
om-Kobo-Store?

Should work out to:
Hunger Games (1st book) $0.83
Catching Fire (2nd book) $1.16
Mockingjay (3rd book) $1.07

I haven't personally read any of them. So, no idea if they're worth the time or not. Just thought I'd pass on the deal.

RIONAEIRE

Thursday, March 29, 2012 3:48 AM

Sometimes the narrator isn't the main charactor and so they aren't developed all that much. Hastings narrates Poirot novels, Watson narrates Study in Scarlet, sometimes the narrator is a vehicle or mirror for getting us to understand the main charactor, who isn't narrating, the narrator is there to reflect the main charactor back to us. I haven't read Hunger Games yet, maybe that's what the author is trying to do?

I assume you're my pal until you let me know otherwise. "A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

TWO

Thursday, March 29, 2012 12:46 PM

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. . . sometimes the narrator is a vehicle or mirror for getting us to understand the main character, who isn't narrating, the narrator is there to reflect the main character back to us. I haven't read Hunger Games yet, maybe that's what the author is trying to do?

Suzanne Collins was doing nothing so sophisticated as that.

J. K. Rowling has no competition from Collins in literary artistry. Not only written from the viewpoint of a 16 year old girl, there are pages that seem to be written by a 16 year old. Maybethat is the artistry.

You are only two minutes away from discovering that for yourself about Suzanne Collins' Hunger Games trilogy.
At least you are if you know what "bittorrent" means. http://bit.ly/H2X4pa

The Game books come in 3 formats: .epub .mobi .pdf
There is a nice epub reader for Firefox www.epubread.com/
mobi can be read on a Kindle, PC, phone, pda www.mobipocket.com/en/DownloadSoft/default.asp
The pdf version is double ugly.

The Joss Whedon script for "Serenity," where Wash lives, is
Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/two

ANONYMOUSE

Saturday, April 7, 2012 11:56 AM

Well, I've now seen the film, and I was pleasantly surprised. It's pretty close to the book, and I think it'll be one for the DVD collection.

Neat use of exposition, i.e. the opening talk show, to replace the first-person narrative; I was half expecting - and wouldn't have minded - a voiceover from Katniss.

Katniss shooting the apple was played perfectly, and as a former archer myself I can definitely say that was an entirely feasible shot. An apple is only a little smaller than the innermost scoring ring of a standard outdoor archery target, and Katniss was, what, 20 yards away, if that? To explain:

Such targets, which are 128cm in diameter, have 5 colours, each with an inner and outer ring - outer white scores 1 point, inner white scores 2, and so on (black = 3 or 4, blue = 5 or 6, red = 7 or 8, yellow = 9 or 10). Each colour ring is 12 cm wide. In the UK, if you're getting an average of 6 arrows all in the blue at 100 yards, i.e. every arrow scores 5 or better, you're shooting to First Class standard (roughly the top quarter of UK archers). If you're getting them inside the red at 100 yards, you're Bowman Class (roughly the top 10%) - I reached that standard, for a month or so, back in 1996. Unfortunately it went to my head, and I fell apart; it wasn't as though I hadn't been working for it, but it happened so suddenly. I never shot that consistently again, I'm afraid. Then I had an accident in 2000 (March 28th, and trust me, peeps, if you check you will find it was a Tuesday. It was the worst night of my life, and nearly my last - all that saved me was a £10 cycle helmet) that did my shoulder in, and I never recovered my skill. :(

So an apple's only a bit smaller than the 10 ring (12cm diameter), and she was a lot closer than 100 yards. At my best, I could've made that shot. Not that I would, as it would breach UK safety rules if anyone were on the wrong side of the shooting line, i.e. in front of the archer. :) There was a time when you legally could shoot anyone who was daft enough to wander onto an archery range, on the logical grounds that anyone that daft deserved whatever they got, but [sarcasm] we're more "civilised" now, aren't we? [/sarcasm]

A few minor gripes re the film:

Jennifer looks a little too old and tall to play Katniss, who's 16, but she played the role very well regardless. Casting as a whole was spot-on, though, especially Peeta, Cinna and Prim, who looked just lovely and angelic in that white dress at the Reaping.

The riot in District 11 was a) in the wrong film (it doesn't take place until Catching Fire), and b) in the wrong place - it should've been District 8. On the other hand, the reason for it - Rue's televised death and Katniss singing to her as she slipped away - was so well played.

Buttercup, Prim's cat, was the wrong colour, and wasn't as ugly as he should've been. :)

Finally, I was rather looking forward to seeing a mockingjay, and an explanation of what they were wouldn't have come amiss. Then again, I suppose they have to keep something back for the next film...

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