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Joss Whedon = Shan-yu = evil (?)

POSTED BY: heb
UPDATED: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 08:15
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Tuesday, May 11, 2004 9:34 PM

Heb,

Now you've got me wondering (and a wee bit depressed) -- I wonder how long he would have waited before he started offing the Firefliers.

Delia

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HEB
Wednesday, May 12, 2004 7:57 AM

Oh no! I hadn't even realised that when I wrote it. Now I'm depressed!

Not long judging by previous Joss standards. Maybe we should storm the set of Serenity before he has a chance.

Although if there's gonna be a trilogy he'd have to be quite mean to do that to one of the actors in the first film and it wouldn't be quite so easy to bring them back as in Buffy.

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Wednesday, May 12, 2004 8:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by McNally:
Wait, so the quote from "War Stories" is real? I thought they just made "Shan Yu" up to quote, letting it be obvious that he was inspired by the writings atributed to Sun tzu.

If so, does anyone know where the "War Stories" quote is actually from? If "Art of War", what section?




The quote was made up but Shanyu was mentioned in the Art of war it is a long quote but here goes

MASTER SUN
therefore if the smaller side is stubburn, it becomes the captive of the larger side

COMMENTARY BY HO YANXI
Ho Yanxi told the story of right general Su Jian of the Han dynasty, a vice general in the wars with the invading Huns of ancient times. Right General Su and Forward General Zhao of the forward army where leading a division of several thousand troops when he encountered a hunnish force ten times as large.
They fought all day, until the chinese army was decimated. Now Forward General Zhao, a foreigner
who had earlier surrendered to the chinese in exchange for rank and title, was invited by the Huns to join them, so he took the rest of his mounted troops , about eight hundred or so , and surrended to the SHANYU, the hunnish chieftain. Right General Su, now having lost his entire army ,was at a loss to know where to go being the sole survivor.
The great general asked several of his top advisors what to do about the case of right general Su. One said "we have not executed a single vice general on this campaign. Now this Su Jian has deserted his army - we should execute him to show how serious we are.
But another said , "No, that is not right. The rule of martial arts say that it is the very stubbornness of the smaller side that makes it captive of thee larger. Now this Su was alone with a few thousand troops when he ran into the Shanyu with a few tens of thousands of troops; he fought hard for over a day, not daring to have any other thought as long as his soldiers were left. If we execute him now that he has come back by himself this would be showing people there is no sense in returning.

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