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2 American NATO troops dead in Afghanistan as locals rage at US's proper burning of Quran

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Friday, February 24, 2012 12:45 AM

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KABUL, Afghanistan — President Obama apologized...


No shocker there.

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The Afghans’ furious response to the Koran burning — three days of riots in several cities nationwide — reflected the anger at what they perceive as foreign forces disrespect for Afghan laws and culture.


It's forbidden to write on the holy Quran. Yet, that's exactly what had been done, as messages were scrawled in these books, by extremists, as a means of communicating with others.

So, instead of giving these 'unclean' books to the locals for proper disposal ( translate - for them to simply be taken away ) the US military destroyed them.

BFD

Afghan President Hamid Karzai has yet to apologize for the 2 American soldiers who were killed.




" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Friday, February 24, 2012 12:50 AM

Hello,

So, we invaded another country and violated their laws and desecrated their culture, and they're so unhappy with us that they shot at us.

No shocker there.

I'm sorry for those that died. I'm sorry we're over there at all, making friends and influencing people. I wish we'd leave.

--Anthony

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"In every war, the state enacts a tax of freedom upon the citizenry. The unspoken promise is that the tax shall be revoked at war's end. Endless war holds no such promise. Hence, Eternal War is Eternal Slavery." --Admiral Robert J. Henner

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Friday, February 24, 2012 12:55 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

KABUL, Afghanistan — President Obama apologized...


No shocker there.

Quote:

The Afghans’ furious response to the Koran burning — three days of riots in several cities nationwide — reflected the anger at what they perceive as foreign forces disrespect for Afghan laws and culture.


It's forbidden to write on the holy Quran. Yet, that's exactly what had been done, as messages were scrawled in these books, by extremists, as a means of communicating with others.

So, instead of giving these 'unclean' books to the locals for proper disposal ( translate - for them to simply be taken away ) the US military destroyed them.

BFD

Afghan President Hamid Karzai has yet to apologize for the 2 American soldiers who were killed.



You're right, we shouldn't be there. I think it's time to clear the stage, sell the sets and turn off the house lights, the show is over.

What do you think we should do now?

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Friday, February 24, 2012 1:01 AM

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,

So, we invaded another country and violated their laws and desecrated their culture, and they're so unhappy with us that they shot at us.

No shocker there.




Actually, it's quite a shocker. They're over reacting to our disposing of their unclean holy books, which , if we're suppose to believe them, have been made unclean by their own.

But these are the sorts who will riot and kill each other because of some cartoonist in Denmark, or take the the streets in Sudan and demand the English born school teacher killed. when school children were allowed to name a teddy bear 'Mohammad '( Thankfully, she wasn't killed, and only imprisoned for 15 days, before being deported )




" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Friday, February 24, 2012 1:22 AM

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Originally posted by pizmobeach:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

KABUL, Afghanistan — President Obama apologized...


No shocker there.

Quote:

The Afghans’ furious response to the Koran burning — three days of riots in several cities nationwide — reflected the anger at what they perceive as foreign forces disrespect for Afghan laws and culture.


It's forbidden to write on the holy Quran. Yet, that's exactly what had been done, as messages were scrawled in these books, by extremists, as a means of communicating with others.

So, instead of giving these 'unclean' books to the locals for proper disposal ( translate - for them to simply be taken away ) the US military destroyed them.

BFD

Afghan President Hamid Karzai has yet to apologize for the 2 American soldiers who were killed.



You're right, we shouldn't be there. I think it's time to clear the stage, sell the sets and turn off the house lights, the show is over.

What do you think we should do now?

Scifi movie music + Firefly dialogue clips, 24 hours a day - http://www.scifiradio.com






Hello,

The physical, concrete costs of September 11th were probably somewhere in the vicinity of ~ 100 billion dollars.

~ 3,000 people died. ~6,000 people were injured.

A very conservative estimate of the cost of War is 1.3 trillion dollars. (Actually much, much higher)

In Iraq, we've got over 24k allies killed, 117k wounded, and something like 100k civilian deaths.

In Afghanistan, we've got 14k allies killed, over 34k wounded. Anywhere from 14k-34k civilian deaths.

If we suffered a September 11th severity attack every single year, it would cost about the same amount of money, but kill fewer people.

And in fact, I don't think we'd suffer such an attack every single year. And in fact, as we learn from our mistakes, attacks of such severity will become less and less common.

I say bring the boys home, batten down the hatches, and when the bad guys blow something up, make intelligent changes to security procedures.

More cost effective. More life effective. And when you leave people the heck alone for a long enough period of time, they find other avenues for their efforts.

If that doesn't work well over the next decade, we can always go back to war and start the mass killing all over again. There's always that fallback when we're completely out of ideas.

--Anthony

_______________________________________________

"In every war, the state enacts a tax of freedom upon the citizenry. The unspoken promise is that the tax shall be revoked at war's end. Endless war holds no such promise. Hence, Eternal War is Eternal Slavery." --Admiral Robert J. Henner

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Friday, February 24, 2012 1:28 AM

I know Rappy will join all of us patriotic Americans who want to say a big "Thank you!" in appreciation of those Iraqis and Afghans who burned our flag because it had touched the ground. After all, that is the prescribed method for dealing with our flag once it has been made "unclean", so they are 100% correct in their actions.

Thanks for being so understanding and appreciative, Rappy. I knew you'd see things my way!

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Friday, February 24, 2012 2:25 AM


Some comments are so idiotic, they don't warrant a response.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Friday, February 24, 2012 2:42 AM

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
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Originally posted by pizmobeach:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

KABUL, Afghanistan — President Obama apologized...


No shocker there.

Quote:

The Afghans’ furious response to the Koran burning — three days of riots in several cities nationwide — reflected the anger at what they perceive as foreign forces disrespect for Afghan laws and culture.


It's forbidden to write on the holy Quran. Yet, that's exactly what had been done, as messages were scrawled in these books, by extremists, as a means of communicating with others.

So, instead of giving these 'unclean' books to the locals for proper disposal ( translate - for them to simply be taken away ) the US military destroyed them.

BFD

Afghan President Hamid Karzai has yet to apologize for the 2 American soldiers who were killed.



You're right, we shouldn't be there. I think it's time to clear the stage, sell the sets and turn off the house lights, the show is over.

What do you think we should do now?

Scifi movie music + Firefly dialogue clips, 24 hours a day - http://www.scifiradio.com]




Hello,

The physical, concrete costs of September 11th were probably somewhere in the vicinity of ~ 100 billion dollars.

~ 3,000 people died. ~6,000 people were injured.

A very conservative estimate of the cost of War is 1.3 trillion dollars. (Actually much, much higher)

In Iraq, we've got over 24k allies killed, 117k wounded, and something like 100k civilian deaths.

In Afghanistan, we've got 14k allies killed, over 34k wounded. Anywhere from 14k-34k civilian deaths.

If we suffered a September 11th severity attack every single year, it would cost about the same amount of money, but kill fewer people.

And in fact, I don't think we'd suffer such an attack every single year. And in fact, as we learn from our mistakes, attacks of such severity will become less and less common.

I say bring the boys home, batten down the hatches, and when the bad guys blow something up, make intelligent changes to security procedures.

More cost effective. More life effective. And when you leave people the heck alone for a long enough period of time, they find other avenues for their efforts.

If that doesn't work well over the next decade, we can always go back to war and start the mass killing all over again. There's always that fallback when we're completely out of ideas.

--Anthony

_______________________________________________





Perhaps there was some confusion because we replied to AU at the same time Anthony, but my question (similar to an unanswered one in another thread) was for AU. I like your answer especially comparing the costs of 9/11 and Afghanistan, but I'm curious if AU has one? What should we do about this?

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Friday, February 24, 2012 3:24 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Some comments are so idiotic, they don't warrant a response.




Are you saying you find the American flag idiotic?

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Saturday, February 25, 2012 10:10 PM

Huh. No answers from Rappy on why he finds the American flag or its proper disposal so idiotic.

In his own words, that proves he's a coward. ;)

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