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POSTED BY: 6ixStringJack
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Saturday, February 18, 2012 3:54 AM

Hey everybody,

I think Wishimay is suffering burnout and cabin fever just from reading my posts in the "Anybody" thread that has gone on for at least 4 months. I think it's time to give her a break

The 2nd floor of my house has been completely rehabbed (except for the bathroom which is perfectly serviceable and I'll get to at a later date).

All walls and ceilings have been completely repaired, electric was fixed and some other electrical upgrades were made, all garbage moulding, casings and window panes/trim were removed for a fresh start, and 3 coats of primer on every wall make for a nice shiny white canvass to start from.



Here's a glimpse of the corner of my "Master Bedroom" as it is now....



As you can see, there is zero molding in the room. I also removed it all from the doorway and the closet, and I ripped out all of the metal/plastic closet crap to make way for some real quality work down the road.

The hardwood floors on the 2nd floor will be a VERY dark stain, think of the color of chocolate or coffee grounds.





Using an awesome tool at BenjaminMoore.com, I was able to get a glimpse of what I could make it look like before painting.

I realize that this wolud probably be a darker color than many would suggest (it's called Fox Run), but keep in mind that my house is built on a 45 degree angle on the corner and this room has a SW exposure, so it would get premium sunlight even in the winter. It's also 15ftx15ft, so it's a very large room. It's my thinking that with the oversized pure white trim I'm going to be putting everywhere that it will be plenty bright, even with the dark floors.

I was just wondering what you thought of this idea....

Here's the pic I came up with from BM.com's site:



Originally I was thinking of being adventurous and going with a red, but the swatches kept bringing me back to a brown with slight red tones to it.

Currently, my King Size bed has a deep red bedding to it. I hear that a brown like this would go well with a Burgandy type bed-set and accents, and would benefit from light beige area rugs and window treatments.

What do you think?????

Thanks!!!!!!

~6

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." ~Shepherd Book

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Saturday, February 18, 2012 4:27 AM

Looks good. The dark colored wood is an interesting touch, would probably look good with the red bedspread.

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Saturday, February 18, 2012 4:42 AM

Do you know how to use a color wheel or a Pantone® book?

http://www.pantone.com/popups/medialounge/medialounge.aspx?pid=1002&ty
pe=1



The simple version goes like this: Find the closest match to the color you're doing the floor in. Note its position on the page of the Pantone book (second from top, third from last, etc.). Now flip to the beige section for your wall color, and pick from the same position on the page - second from top, third from last, etc. Do the same for your red, for your accents, trim, and so on, and you end up with a room that has a "tonal balance". All the colors mesh, and none of them clash.

Also, greens are still quite popular with dark browns and reds. Think something like a pastel green - not a surf green, necessarily, but something like this:



Look at column 34, row 08. Something along those lines.

With the beige/tan colors, they are VERY hard to mix. I spent 20-some years in print shops, and mixing beige and tan inks was tough. You can change the character of the color by quite literally adding one or two drops of red or green into a gallon of beige!

Everybody has their own style and tastes, so you have to do what you can live with. I prefer muted colors on most walls (white, cream, something neutral), but then I like to have one really bold wall, which I call an "accent wall", painted with a very bold color. The main wall of my living room - the wall that houses the entertainment center and shelves for my Czech art glass - is a bold, bright orange. A whole room of it would kill my eyes, but a single wall of it breaks up the room.

At any rate, it looks like you're definitely on the right track. That room is going to look a thousand percent better than when you started, I'll bet!


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Saturday, February 18, 2012 5:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bytemite:
Looks good. The dark colored wood is an interesting touch, would probably look good with the red bedspread.



Thanks Byte,

I didn't even think of it until i saw it on BM.com and loved it.

I don't want dark hardwood on the 1st floor though, so my idea was to make all the steps the dark color of the 2nd floor and the vertical slats the light color of the 1st floor.

I think it will look awesome!

I'll also have a dark beige in the livingroom of the first floor with the light floors, to contrast a light beige in the 2nd floor hallway stairwell to contrast the dark hardwood.





Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Do you know how to use a color wheel or a Pantone® book?...........

At any rate, it looks like you're definitely on the right track. That room is going to look a thousand percent better than when you started, I'll bet!


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Thanks for the info Kwicko, but I'm about as dumb with colors as I am at college algebra. I loved art classes in highschool, but I always tinkered in charcoal and B/W stuff. I'm not color-blind medically, but sometimes I think I may as well be.

Do you think a room with walls moderately dark like that, with a floor that is EXTREMELY dark will work with a pure S/W exposure to natural sunlight?


Here's a little more info about how the room looked at first and during work....



Horrible windows with no trim execpt the "sills" that were covered with 20 layers of paint, likely many of them laden with lead.



Martha Stewart went crazy on the blue walls with a sliver sponge.



Two 15 foot ceiling cracks require a lot of prep.... cutting out a "V" to mud, screwing into the joists to further brace, mudding over mesh tape, sanding nearly 60 sq feet of mud overhead to make it as even as possible so the naked eye can't tell any work was done......

Here's the end result of that work:


Anyways, thanks for the input, truly...

Here's what my 2nd Bedroom looked like before:



Here's what it looks like now:



Here's what I'm thinking about doing with it:






I love that you want to teach a man to fish, rather than fish for him, but I'm on a serious personal time frame here. I'd love to hear from somebody like you that knows that my personal choises in color don't make me look like an idiot. I put way too much time in prep work to look like a douchebag after the colors go up finally.

Thanks again,
~6

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." ~Shepherd Book

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Saturday, February 18, 2012 5:20 AM

All of this "Color" talk makes me think of one of my top ten songs ever...


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Saturday, February 18, 2012 5:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

... and 3 coats of primer




Ha! You said "primer"! I getta

Moonshine!

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Saturday, February 18, 2012 6:26 AM

It looks like it gets good light, so the dark floor and not-white walls should work pretty well. Maybe even a light blond/cream color around windows/doors/moldings to set them off a bit. I do like the idea of browns/tans/coffee colors set off with a dramatic red bedspread - it focuses the room on the bed, which ain't a bad thing in a bedroom!



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Saturday, February 18, 2012 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
Ha! You said "primer"! I getta

Moonshine!



Haha! Got me again.

You'll have to come up with another word I overuse soon though. Probably won't have much left to pri... um... yanno... for a while.

Still have to do the door frames and the molding on the stairs after they're all prepped in the next few days though, so it should be good for a few more shots!


"Paint" might be good for a short while, although now that everything will be prepped that part should go really quickly once I figure out my colors.

"Sand" or "Stain" could be good for a while too, although I hope that I can get the floors done in about 3-4 days tops since that will really suck not being able to walk on the 2nd floor for 24hr stretches.

Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
It looks like it gets good light, so the dark floor and not-white walls should work pretty well. Maybe even a light blond/cream color around windows/doors/moldings to set them off a bit. I do like the idea of browns/tans/coffee colors set off with a dramatic red bedspread - it focuses the room on the bed, which ain't a bad thing in a bedroom!



Yeah, it gets a ton of light when I don't have garbage bags covering the windows.

When you say "around" the windows/doors/moldings, do you mean to go with a cream color on the actual moldings? Or maybe you mean only on the parts that touch the walls (the outside borders of the wood)? I don't exactly get your meaning here.



For the bed, I'm thinking of getting rid of the headboard and just keeping the frame for now, and sometime later upgrading to a better King frame. The one I have looks nice, but it's very light colored and it's just veneered low/quality particle board. I don't actually even feel it's worth risking bumping into walls to take it upstairs when I want to replace it down the line anyhow.

That being said, I have a dark colored, quality, bedroom set (2 Dressers, one with a gigantic mirror top that almost resembles a bar, and a night stand). It will be just a few shades of brown lighter than the floor will be. Do you think that a set that will be much darker than the walls, yet only a few shades lighter than the floor will go well?

There are shelves meant for decorative things along both sides of the "Mirror top" which is heavy and simply rests on top of the dresser that is about 70" wide and only about 32" tall (with the mirror on top, it's nearly 7' tall). I figure on those shelves I could have some extra "Red" to go with the bed set.

If you think the set could work, I'd probably get a King frame in a similar dark color when money permits.

Oh yeah.... Underneath, I'd like to get about a 12'x12' light beige area rug that will leave nearly 1'6" of the dark hardwood exposed at all edges, so in the end the dark floors really aren't going to be dark except for at the borders.

Thanks again for the thoughts.


Anybody else have any thoughts or ideas, please chime in!

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Sunday, February 19, 2012 10:08 PM

Kwicko - - loved the video at the Pantone site. That software would make a lovely tool/toy.
Thanks for putting up the link.

bun

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Monday, February 20, 2012 4:42 PM

I say go for it. I like the mockup. Worst case scenario is you hate it, it's paint you can always paint over it later.

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