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Celestial Navigation Chart of the Verse

POSTED BY: ShadowTek
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Monday, January 23, 2012 5:03 AM

I think so. One of the names there translates to "spoiled cake" in Chinese, a mild curse. Normally they seem to give names like that to unterraformed worlds (like 7th Circle around Coldstone in Blue Sun), but if it's not listed in main system descriptions, I'd imagine asteroids or other dead rock.

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Monday, January 23, 2012 5:27 AM

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Originally posted by Bytemite:
I think so. One of the names there translates to "spoiled cake" in Chinese, a mild curse. Normally they seem to give names like that to unterraformed worlds (like 7th Circle around Coldstone in Blue Sun), but if it's not listed in main system descriptions, I'd imagine asteroids or other dead rock.



Ok thanks for the info!! I dont plan to add asteroid orbits.

Image in first post updated:

White Sun System completed, (all planets, suns and moons added) removed two orbits that were not needed. Labeled the asteroid fields, expanded the legend. Added all sun names (with there AKA names)

Note: its taking so long as I tried a few things, also every planet will have a unique image (though some may look similar) also every typed name is given a black glow so that it is clearly visible (the black glow is not so much visible, but its there) to clearly define it from anything in the background.

If anyone sees any errors in the White Sun System let me know (But I believe its accurate and good to go)


NOTE: Im constantly updating that first image with new additions and fixes..

EDIT: Modified first two posts and reduced the size of the second image (to save load times) as thats now simply to show a background that will be available.. (If you find a better background let me know) Or I can simply make requested backgrounds to make the map closer to what you individual members would like.

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Monday, January 23, 2012 7:38 AM

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Ok thanks, I have another question, in (ARC of the Verse) the white Sun system, (Im done for the most part) what is:
Dukkha and Ra Amiran? Are they large asteroids? They have there own orbits but not sure what they are?

Thanks for the info :)



Dukkha and Ra Amiran are dwarf planets that were added as part of the 'Fan Content' expansion on The Verse in Numbers 2.0 and the ARC of the Verse 2.0. Chris Bourdier invited me to work on version 2 of his VIN and we agreed to include fan made worlds from such projects as 'Into the Black' and some of the comic books additions to the canon. I updated the ARC to reflect the changes to the Verse in Numbers. Like many of the planets that were added to round out the Complete and Official Map of the Verse, Dukkha and Ra Amiran are additions to the growing Verse. They are too small or too isolated from a primary or secondary star as a heat source to be terraformed, but they contain mining and research facilities and they have satellites. You don't have to include them in your map.


for those who are curious about some of the fan content, this is the writeup I did on the Cortex RPG site about the dwarf planet Ra Amiran and the satellite Namira.

Early in the history of remote surveying the region in and around the White Sun System yielded very promising results. Most of the planets and moons found there were of a good size and in close proximity to a primary (and later secondary) source of light, making most of them viable for an atmosphere and colonization.

Ra Amiran and Namira were only just counted among these.

The small dwarf planet Ra Amiran was discovered in White Tiger's Kuiper belt in 2190 by remote survey and it was immediately catalogued among the thousands of other remote objects orbiting White Tiger. The small body was numbered and its orbit was marked among so many other neighboring rocks. Early projections about this unremarkable chunk of ice and stone were poor at best, though it was large enough to sit at the bottom of a growing list of terra-forming candidates, and it was possessed of at least one documented satellite. As time passed the small planet was found to be so far removed from the system primary (and all later secondary stars of the same system) that it showed no promise of true surface habitation. Still, the small globe did fit neatly into the definition of a true dwarf planet by the rules of Astronomy as applied at the time. As such, it was decided that it should have a name.

In the mid 17th century of Earth that Was, a poet soldier named Khalil Nasir Mahdi lived among the many peoples of Egypt's Western Desert. He was a man of considerable favor, both in the high courts and hallowed halls of the Ottomans, and among the poorest of slaves and servants of his native Mut. As a Timariot of the Ottomans, Mahdi was favored with power and privilege and spent much of his time in writing and learning, and wherever possible, improving the lives of everyone that he knew. For himself, Mahdi seems by all accounts to have been a somewhat sad figure, for while he enjoyed many benefits of life and station he had lost his one and only treasure in the death of his lover, Sadeema. This was made even more apparent in his later years when he penned the fanciful tale of Ra Amiran and Namira known as the Ikhlaas, which most scholars agree to be a revealing, semi-autobiographical piece about himself and Sadeema.

In this classic tale of love and sacrifice, the hero Ra Amiran gives up his throne, kingdom and immortality to pursue a taboo love with a beautiful mortal woman named Namira. Ra Amiran makes this sacrifice to prove his undying love to the young woman, so that they might live out the course of their lives aging alongside one another. Of course, as with all tales of this kind and of this era, the story is fraught with many perilous obstacles and more than a few antagonists. The story is helped along by Mahdi's own personal experience and his obvious disdain for class systems and bigo

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Monday, January 23, 2012 7:44 AM

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Originally posted by ShadowTek:


Also there is text in white sun area:
4.722 AU Li Si
4.722 AU Zhao Gao
Tide (Fusu)4.722 AU
4.722 AUHuhai
4.722 AU Jianglu
Changjiao4.722 AU
4.722 AUIsis

Any idea what that is for?

Thanks for the info :)



They are some of Qin Shi Huang's Lagrangian Asteroids. The VIN and ARC 2.0 both list the Lagrangian Asteroids of the various systems.

Did the original Savior version have the Georgia and Kalidasa systems swapped?

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Monday, January 23, 2012 8:53 AM

@YELLOWJACKET

Thanks for all the info, I just wasn't sure what they were so wasn't sure what to add, thanks for explaining..

I have re-added the two orbits and added the two mini planets and moons, I think thats great that the community is keeping the verse going (Thats what I'm trying to do! fan content is great to add! ) Also I added a new designator (m) for mining.. I even used that image to make the planet :)

Thanks for all that great info, see updated map in first post :)


Speaking of the Kalidasa system, I'm dreading building that system, its huge

EDIT: CRAP!!! Uggg I see what you mean.. that will be fun to fix.. no thats a ME error, crap :(

UPDATE:
Updated first map image Georgia and Kalidasa systems are where there supposed to be now. Thanks yellowjacket for pointing that out!! (And yes I'm a moron lol )

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Tuesday, January 24, 2012 1:35 AM

Updated First image.

Todays Updates:
1. Swapped Georgia and Kalidasa systems (Cause I'm stupid)
2. Added Deep Space Stations
3. Added the Cortex Relay Stations
4. fixed more planet orbits (I was missing two and one system had one too many)
5. Finished The Blue System (all planets, suns and moons added) *geez Fury has allot of moons*
6. added the ships I'm gonna use in the map in the legend.
7. added Dukkha and Ra Amiran and moons as mentioned above

As usual please point out any errors you find (Like the HUGE one YELLOWJACKET pointed out)

EDIT: Updated first post image, Im 1/2 way done with the Red System, I finished the main system, but I still have the two outside suns planets and moons to add. (each has 4 planets + moons)

Also Added Reaver Ships to correct locations.

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Tuesday, January 24, 2012 4:04 AM

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5. Finished The Blue System (all planets, suns and moons added) *geez Fury has allot of moons*



Actually, Jupiter has 64 named natural satellites. Saturn has 62. This was major deciding factor to add fan content. Too few satellites in the Verse. Fury probably has three or four dozen more that have too little mass to terraform with an atmosphere.

I love your additions of space stations and cortex relay stations.

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Tuesday, January 24, 2012 4:21 AM

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Originally posted by ShadowTek:
5. Finished The Blue System (all planets, suns and moons added) *geez Fury has allot of moons*



Actually, Jupiter has 64 named natural satellites. Saturn has 62. This was major deciding factor to add fan content. Too few satellites in the Verse. Fury probably has three or four dozen more that have too little mass to terraform with an atmosphere.

I love your additions of space stations and cortex relay stations.



Thanks! For the cortex relay stations I loaded up my Serenity DVD and screen captured Mr Universe's planet and used that to make them, but I also added the asteroid in the middle so people have a better understanding of what they are :)

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Tuesday, January 24, 2012 4:53 AM

*Actually, Jupiter has 64 named natural satellites. Saturn has 62. This was major deciding factor to add fan content. Too few satellites in the Verse. Fury probably has three or four dozen more that have too little mass to terraform with an atmosphere.*

So true, as far as I'm concerned, if its in the ARC or TVBN its official :) and will be added. Once the main systems are done, I may go back and add your asteroids that are in planet orbits as well, as I want it to be as detailed as possible.

Also note you can use my map in anyway you like, as it is a fan contribution to the Firefly community, Not that you may find a use for it, but just saying.

You or anyone here can modify this map as they see fit :) (just ask me for a non-compressed version of the image) I'm just making it as I'm new to Firefly and I'm hooked and love it!! But yeah I realize I'm a few years too late lol

NOTE: I only have 44 more planets to add and all there moons

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Tuesday, January 24, 2012 7:33 AM

Added the following info to first post, I will probably add something similar to the map:

Important notes on below map:

1. Planets are NOT in there actual sizes in relations to each other, each planet is "Blown up" to show what they look like. However gas giants (like Fury) have been made big to show there size.

2. Obviously things like ships, DSS, and ACRS appear larger then they actually are, its to show what they look like and locations.. so you can find them :)

3. Automated Cortex Relay Stations are asteroids that were "Bumped" into orbit (in some cases) that were terraformed and have a crazy electric atmosphere, There purpose is to allow communication in all 5 star systems and anywhere in "The Verse". They all have massive communication base's built on them.

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