What's up with TARGET: EPA! ??
POSTED BY: pizmobeach
UPDATED: Friday, December 23, 2011 01:45
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pizmo, I was snarking rap.
There is no mono conspiracy. Conspiracy is a model that works, and so people will reinvent it forever.
The merchants of death exist, and they worry me. A few others worry me as well. The greedmongers are harmless by themselves, it's only when they're manipulated that they're a danger.
FOX NEWS is a traffic monger. They manipulate influence, which they then sell, in this case, to the greedmongers. They are dangerous in chain reaction here.
The powermongers, the fascist police state, they're in tnis game to: they would like to control our supply to water, now that they control our supply to oil and healthcare. They also want to control food, but water is more powerful, you can only survive three days without it.
Even Powermongers and fascist overlords may not know that merchants of death are there.
Now, if you really understand this, then we have something to talk about. I know four people on the forum who really get this, and I have them to thank for me getting it at all.
If you disagree, or "don't get it" but are willing to try, I have one seed of doubt to feed you first:
If TPTB own the printing press which mints the bills and issues the currency of the world, what purpose could they possibly have for profit?
Think about it. Keep thinking until it stops making sense. Money is a means to an end. No logical flow will lead you to the conclusion that it is an end in itself.
That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.
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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
If TPTB own the printing press which mints the bills and issues the currency of the world, what purpose could they possibly have for profit?
Hokay Riddler, riddle me this: what purpose could they possibly have for mass Death? Aliens in human form? Blood sucking Fangers?
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To propagate your own genetic line by eliminating the competition.
That would be why there is genocide, and war, and weapons, and violence, or why men evolved to be strong, to fight off other men, in short, the one of the cornerstones of evolution.
That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.
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To propagate your own genetic line by eliminating the competition.
That would be why there is genocide, and war, and weapons, and violence, or why men evolved to be strong, to fight off other men, in short, the one of the cornerstones of evolution.
So, Evolution = Bad?
Curious - who's genetic line is the culprit here?
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Originally posted by pizmobeach:
So, Evolution = Bad?
Idiocy = good?
I'm sorry, you're just arguing for the sake of arguing, and not applying any logic to the connections above.
I give up.
That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.
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Originally posted by dreamtrove:Quote:
Originally posted by pizmobeach:
So, Evolution = Bad?
Idiocy = good?
I'm sorry, you're just arguing for the sake of arguing, and not applying any logic to the connections above.
I give up.
Your logic = idiocy?
And you are just rambling for the sake of attention. Give up, you always do.
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I'd like an answer to that question, too: "who's genetic line is the culprit here?"
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I'm going to step away from the genetics here, and say that I feel we need the EPA, are they always perfect? Of course not, but its way better, things are cleaner now, than it was before they came along. Dirty rivers are cleaner than they were in, say, the 70s. Loggers replant more etc. I think that more needs to be done to improve things and maybe the EPA doesn't always go about it the perfect way, but they do something which is more than I can say for this country before they were invented.
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I'm not saying DT is right here, but he's not all wrong, either.
According to the powers that give the GOP its marching orders, regulations are "job killing". Ergo, if a thing is viewed as being job-killing, it's necessarily bad. And in the simple us-v-them, black-v-white thinking of the modern neo-conservative, if it is viewed as being anti-jobs, then anything OPPOSITE that must necessarily be PRO-jobs.
So, if regulations and regulatory agencies are killing jobs, then the way to bring jobs to life is to kill the regulations and the agencies.
It's not that they actively want to KILL people; it's just that in the conservative view, attacking everything you view as evil - whether it be Iraq or the EPA - is justifiable and right, and everyone who dies as a direct or indirect result of that attack is nothing more than "collateral damage".
So as I said, they aren't TRYING to kill people; they just don't give two shits that people will die as a result of their actions.
In the end, they truly, deeply, unfailingly love money far more than they love humanity and life.
But, as the Cree Indians put it,
"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill
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This isn't reform, this is about attacking America. It's terrorism, plain and simple. The fossil fuel industry is synthesizing one trillion gallons of chemical weapons which they are using to destroy the country and kill all the people. This is the agenda. There is no profit. No one makes money by pouring chemicals into the Earth here, it's extraneous to the industry. It serves one purpose: To kill Americans.
It's that simple. And effective. More effective than striking America with a nuclear weapon.
Already, more explosives have been dropped on America by this so called "industry" then were dropped on Iraq and Afghanistan. Now they've already hit the US with a million times the amount of chemical weapons that Saddam Hussein had, and I concede all of Rap's claims of Iraqi WMDs.
See, I think you're looking at the wrong end of this thing.
The fracking fluids are basically made of up every evil thing that sloughs off as a by-product of the refining processes. It is classified as toxic waste by any rational definition of the term. And as such, petroleum companies - or "energy companies" as they like to be called this year, since "petroleum" brings up all those nasty images of oil spills and such - are responsible for disposing of it properly.
Or they would be, if they weren't able to get the government to allow them to use pretty much ANYTHING as fracking fluids ("proprietary blends" means you can't even ask, and they don't have to tell), and rather than PAY to dispose of toxic waste, you jam it down a hole under pressure to release natural gas which you then SELL. So you made money refining petroleum products, but you also made metric tons of toxic sludge (I'd bet mine tailings can be "fracking fluids", too!) which you must now get rid of, so you get rid of it NOT by paying money to have it dealt with ethically, but by flushing it down the water table to force gas out of the ground, which you then turn around and sell. You net two times to sell your goods, and no times to pay to dispose of your poisonous runoff, for a net profit of 3X.
Is it any wonder energy companies can print money faster than the federal reserve?
Instead of thinking about it as a direct attack on the U.S., DT, think of it as an incidental one. It's more an "I don't really care what happens next week, because my bonus check will have cleared my Swiss bank by then" kind of afterthought attack. It's not that they meant to kill the water, the soil, and the ecosystem; it's just that they thought they'd be gone before the bills came due.
"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill
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