Christian Fundamentalists and the Rise of the Radical Right
POSTED BY: Niki2
UPDATED: Tuesday, September 16, 2025 22:02
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"... he's here to piss people off by making statements that are SO far outside the realm of reality that it triggers people into arguing with him and trying to get through to him. It's (h)is game, he plays it every day ..."
And it feeds his ego. Without it, he'd feel like the nothing he is.
It's why I refuse to post to him. Why waste the time when there are so many intelligent, informed, thoughtful and reasonably sane people to actually discuss things with?
But I give Kwicko a pass. I think he's honing his logic and writing skills on widdle wappy, and to tell you the truth, Kwicko gets me LOL at least once when I come to the board.
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...What?
I guess you were too busy with Kwicko to notice my post, then.
Anyway, the islam thing is a side discussion anyway. I'm not even sure how it came up. Hardly the "whole thread."
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One of the things I've always disliked about ANY religion when people take it to extremes is "It is comforting to have answers to life’s deepest questions and Fundamentalism provides relief from angst by postulating that there is some form of continued existence in an afterlife after death."
See, that's the problem. That's not just fundamentalists, sorry, that's attacking a central tenet of Christianity.
I myself don't agree with the idea of a heaven, or even the consequences of people who think that they can be saved after death and so they can just let this world go to ruin. But the way this is phrased would be offensive to all Christianity. Indeed, all religion! For example, you don't believe in reincarnation, Niki, but a lot of Buddhists do.
So the article isn't just attacking fundamentalists, it's attacking a lot of different concepts, some of which it's entirely unfair to group with fundamentalism.
And why is this author attacking all religion? Because he is an intolerant Humanist. And that's my objection here.
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So to is the black-and-white thinking, for some of the same reasons. If you give the power over what you think to someone else, it makes thinking for yourself unnecessary and tolerance impossible.
Apparently, religion isn't a necessary prerequisite for intolerance.
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"...What?
I guess you were too busy with Kwicko to notice my post, then."
Oh, uh, Byte - was that to me? If it was, you're going to have to explain to me where I went wrong. Thanks.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
I never get refuted based on any facts by Kwickie, or anyone here. That's what's so pointless in attempting to carry on any worth while dialog here. Kwickie takes inane, irrelevant non issues and tries to hold them up as some sort of counter to what I'm saying. It's like me saying the sun rises in the East, but Kwickie saying ' no, the Sun does NOT revolve around the Earth, but it's the other way around '. Yeah, and ? That's not the discussion at hand, but thanks for playing.
You claimed that Christians in the last 300 years (YOUR time frame - look back at your posts) haven't done anywhere near the murders and terrorism that Muslims have. You laid it out point for point, and then said "Your turn."
So I responded, completely within the framework YOU laid out, and you threw a fit like the little child you are.
You even claimed that Jim Jones didn't engage in any sort of terrorism. So you are now on record as saying that assassination of a sitting member of Congress and the shootings of reporters don't count as terrorism. Well... not when a Christian does it, anyway.
You claim McVeigh never killed "in the name of Jesus". I say "Prove it."
I show direct quotes to support my positions, from the killers themselves, and your belief seems to be that we can't take Christians at their word about what they believe.
You'll refuse to see facts and reason for the rest of your life, it seems. You'll continue to believe that the sun revolves around the Earth, because at the heart of it, you really ARE a fundamentalist whackjob.
If you ever said "Support the Troops!", you are a socialist. You've taken money from me, by force and at gunpoint, and you've given it to people who are on a mission I don't support, and are murdering others in my name, and I am given no choice in the matter.
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No. I don't just respond to the last post in a thread because it leads to people getting notices in their inboxes that are irrelevant to them. I consider it a form of spam.
I only respond to the person I'm addressing my comments to. If you didn't get an email notification, you're good.
...If you did get an email notification, I messed up somewhere...
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Hitler and his motivations have been documented and discussed far more times in the past 60 years than needs to be counted.
Spreading "Christianity " wasn't the focal point of Hitler's drive for military conquest, and it's pointless to drag all this up , once again, simply so Kwickie can claim to have scored some points in some message board contest.
Hitler died 65 years ago.
Jim Jones died 32+ years ago.
Neither of which had any remote comparison to the global terrorism which is being committed to by Islamic jihadists of today.
This whole thread has become a giant head fake to throw folks off topic, that being that Islamic fundamentalism is , by far, the more violent and pressing issue of the day.
" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
YOUR challenge was for the last 300 years.
Or were you lying about that?
If you ever said "Support the Troops!", you are a socialist. You've taken money from me, by force and at gunpoint, and you've given it to people who are on a mission I don't support, and are murdering others in my name, and I am given no choice in the matter.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:Quote:
Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
hmmmmm- history is replete with examples that prove you otherwise, as the article Niki posted demonstrate.
We're living in the here and now. More people have died from Islamic extremism in the last 5 years than the last 100 or even 200 years of Christian extremism.
Hell, make it 300 years. It's not even close.
So spare me the game of equivalence. I'm not buying it.
" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "
So "it's not even close" - UNTIL I prove that Hitler was a religiously-motivated Christian, and Jim Jones was as well. At which point you change your stance to something along the lines of "I never said that!"
You're so willing to dismiss the ugliness in Christianity's closet, aren't you?
Why is that, do you think? You have quite a giant blind spot there. You really should see to that.
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Originally posted by TheHappyTrader:
It occurs to be that AURaptor really can't lose posting in a thread like this. If he really is as hateful as we are lead to believe, many of you re simply spreading his hatred. Rappy argues Muslims are the suck, and the response is an attack on Christians...
What attack on Christianity? You really are so blinded by your own agenda you can't even read the posts that have been made on this board. I can't remember ONE attack on Christianity that one person has made. The discussion has been about extremists, extremist Christians who force their beliefs on others, and oppose evolution. I'm sorry you can't seem to distinguish between the two and just see any discussion that involves the 'C' word as offensive to your sensibilities, which would, by all appearances, prevent any criticism of it at all.
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Uh, I know that it's hard for you guys to see, but as I said, a lot of stuff in that first post is NOT fundamentalist Christian, it's regular Christian.
It's an attack essay from a Humanist, against religion in general, parts of Christianity, and just happens to make some points in specific about Christian fundamentalists. But the whole essay is less about forcing legislated morality and more about the belief itself. I take issue with that.
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