About American religions

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DREAMTROVE

Friday, March 25, 2011 3:08 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
don't get your panties in a wad about it.

Oh, look sexism, how quaint. From Texas. Texism.

That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

BYTEMITE

Friday, March 25, 2011 4:30 PM

Actually more of a snark, a comeback, an ironic echo repeating what was said before to the one who said it.

KWICKO

Friday, March 25, 2011 10:34 PM

Yes, Byte wins the "paying attention" prize. It was a snark-in-kind, nothing more.

:)

NIKI2

Friday, March 25, 2011 10:43 PM

Gone a couple of days, catching up: Happy, yes, your second paragraph is correct, BUT...aren't all religions about

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There's somewhat of a commitment to do right and help others on your way.

to a degree anyway? In other words, those who would do so aren't "true" Christians, but my 62 years tell me there are an awful lot of "those" around...

Same with deathbed confessions...it's happened often enough that I've heard it mentioned--usually as a joke, admittedly, or a snark. So let's put it in other terms; the person who does whatever they want then goes to confession and "repents", gets a couple of Hail Mary's and hey, ho, you get a clean slate. Same concept. My point is that a lot of so-called "religious" people do things the DO know (subconsciously if not consciously) are wrong, figuring they can get out of it. And a whole lot more do things they SHOULD know are wrong, but somehow human interpretation of whatever god there is in their religion tells them it's okay with said god--in fact it's RIGHT--to condemn Muslims, kill abortion doctors, kill homosexuals, etc., etc. Religion is used as an excuse, whether the person is a true believer or consciously using it as an excuse, for quite possibly the most horrific and numerous violence in the world. That right there is quite enough to make me not believe in any religion or god.

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off

PHOENIXROSE

Friday, March 25, 2011 10:49 PM

I do not need the written code of a spiritual belief to act like a decent human being.

THEHAPPYTRADER

Friday, March 25, 2011 11:26 PM

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...to a degree anyway? In other words, those who would do so aren't "true" Christians, but my 62 years tell me there are an awful lot of "those" around...

Same with deathbed confessions...it's happened often enough that I've heard it mentioned--usually as a joke, admittedly, or a snark. So let's put it in other terms; the person who does whatever they want then goes to confession and "repents", gets a couple of Hail Mary's and hey, ho, you get a clean slate. Same concept. My point is that a lot of so-called "religious" people do things the DO know (subconsciously if not consciously) are wrong, figuring they can get out of it. And a whole lot more do things they SHOULD know are wrong, but somehow human interpretation of whatever god there is in their religion tells them it's okay with said god--in fact it's RIGHT--to condemn Muslims, kill abortion doctors, kill homosexuals, etc., etc...

I won't argue experiences, I'm still pretty young and from a different area. It's something I have a hard tome believing on account of it not really making sense, but I suspect you don't see much sense in it either

This however

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Religion is used as an excuse, whether the person is a true believer or consciously using it as an excuse, for quite possibly the most horrific and numerous violence in the world.

I'm going to have to disagree with (the italicized parts). Statically, this is not the case, though it seems to be a popular misconception.

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I do not need the written code of a spiritual belief to act like a decent human being.

Good for you. I like to believe most people don't.

I've been a Christian for almost 8 years, and I think I was a pretty decent person before that. My faith gave me a shinier outlook on life and different motivations for 'doing right.' Instead of 'doing right' in hopes that people would like me, think well of me, etc... I want to 'do right' to help others. Religion can give you a different perspective on things, but it's up to you to make your own personal choices.

Religion does not absolve you of personal responsibility, which is apparently another common misconception...

KWICKO

Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:41 AM

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There's somewhat of a commitment to do right and help others on your way.

Wow. So that's your whole reason for having a religion? No wonder I don't get it - I thought that was just part of being a freaking human being!!

THEHAPPYTRADER

Saturday, March 26, 2011 3:12 AM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
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There's somewhat of a commitment to do right and help others on your way.

Wow. So that's your whole reason for having a religion? No wonder I don't get it - I thought that was just part of being a freaking human being!!

Oh kwickie, lol, you psychic you

How could you know know if that was my whole reason?

Or maybe you are just being observant, like selectively. I could arrogantly demand you reread my posts like some posters... but if you mean to intentionally misinterpret me it's not worth the effort.

DREAMTROVE

Saturday, March 26, 2011 4:12 AM

I feel somehow people aren't getting enough out of their faith.

That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

RIONAEIRE

Saturday, March 26, 2011 6:08 AM

Huzzah for Happy, he's doing well and being very reasonable while still communicating how he believes, go Happy! I'm with you here as a fellow Christian. I don't knowwhy people are slagging on you.

DT, I laughed at your Texism remark inspite of myself. I'm a sucker for puns, or whatever goofy word game that falls into.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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