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MSNBC doesn't care about Japanese people!

POSTED BY: Skywalken
UPDATED: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 02:26
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Monday, March 14, 2011 4:24 AM

It's easy to filter out the slant. Fewer people recognize the curiosity of their topic selection.

Almost everything that MSM focuses on hits the topics of "problems that don't matter." Japan is an exception, but WI isn't.

BTW, Aristide is returning to Haiti.

That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.

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Monday, March 14, 2011 8:28 AM

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Originally posted by Niki2:
The MSM will NEVER treat its audience like adults...too many of them AREN'T (if you take that to mean "intelligent adults")...and they've always, always reached for the "lowest common denominator". Why do you think we get so much coverage of Sheen and the other "celebrities" (I use the word advisedly) and their antics? It's what the public wants... Unfortunately, there is a portion of us out here who'd like real, adult news...and we ain't gonna get it.



Sadly, like everything else in the media, news broadcast survives on rating. Naturally, they'll report on stories that people like to watch and not what they should watch. IMHO, if you want adult coverage of the news, just do your own leg work using various online resources.

Just a word of caution though, a lot of the news we watch on television has been filtered to a certain extent to conform to our own views of what the world should be like. When one starts looking at the world through a global view rather than an American or even a Western view, one often finds that what is fed through us through our own media isn't completely the real or whole truth.

On more than several occasion while in college, I've been told by foreign students that we Americans tend to be ethnocentric. It has taken me a while to try and not to be that way, but I have to admit, it's a very difficult thing to not be when we're brought up to be exactly that.

Therefore, having adult news mean that you have to not be ethnocentric, because as they say in the movies, "You want the truth? You can't handle the truth."


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Monday, March 14, 2011 4:08 PM


Yeah, well - problem with doing your own legwork is the time factor, especially since by comparison americans have so very much less non-work time than anyone else on the planet, and a social structure run by folks who are masters at distract-divert-divide, at times it can feel like you're a cat trying to ignore a lazer pointer, LOOK HERE, LOOK THERE, OH LOOK THAT WAY!... anything but at the issues, and HEY LOOK, CELEBRITIES!
*rolling eyes*

In regards to ethnocentrism, one thing knowing folks in many countries has done is given me an appreciation of the differences, strengths and weaknesses of other cultures, and both how similar, and just how different, they can be - I was originally disappointed that RAWA wasn't as aggressive as I thought it should be but over time it became clear that in their society that would not work as effectively as expected, and carried risks far beyond just backlash.
(as the NFA situation made abundantly clear somewhat later)

Still, it's hard to not be, sure - plus when it comes to activism we have so very much wrong in our own backyard that at times it can become very difficult to really empathise with problems half a world away no matter how much worse they are, and not for any length of time, certainly.

Re: Aristide - good news that, but I hope he has a veritable army of mercs to protect him from our "protection" when he gets there, given what happened the LAST time he trusted us.

Speakin of which, now that the initial knee-jerk help-the-victims rush has settled, was I in charge of Japans defenses I would be on the lookout for the usual-suspect vultures, and be prepared to chase off the IMF, WTO, FTAA, Blackwater, Haliburton/KBR and all those folk, cause that kind of "help" can cost you far more than just money... it can cost you all that you have.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Tuesday, March 15, 2011 12:18 AM

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
To be fair, the US media is generally most interested in the US.



To be fair our news is run by Australians, but this is highly atypical.


counter arguments people that they later covered the story don't Hold because they clearly when it was breaking news got it on the wire like everyone else, but unlike everyone else, bumped it in favor of the typical garbage



Thing is, I was one of the people actually watching MSNBC that morning, and they WERE covering it, complete with video of the tsunami rolling across houses, farms, and fields.

I find it funny that people who claim NOT to ever watch MSNBC keep trying to tell me what MSNBC did and didn't do or show.

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Funny, though, who people who claim to be independent and berate the MSM are still partisanly programmed enough to not only defend/attack networks on this basis...



Like you just did? Yeah, I did notice that. ;)



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Tuesday, March 15, 2011 12:25 AM

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Just a word of caution though, a lot of the news we watch on television has been filtered to a certain extent to conform to our own views of what the world should be like. When one starts looking at the world through a global view rather than an American or even a Western view, one often finds that what is fed through us through our own media isn't completely the real or whole truth.

On more than several occasion while in college, I've been told by foreign students that we Americans tend to be ethnocentric. It has taken me a while to try and not to be that way, but I have to admit, it's a very difficult thing to not be when we're brought up to be exactly that.

Therefore, having adult news mean that you have to not be ethnocentric, because as they say in the movies, "You want the truth? You can't handle the truth."

Right on, Haken. I have been shocked over and over again by friends in the UK, Canada, Australia and other places who have told me how "the world" views things, which I heard quite differently on our MSM. I do tend to get a lot of my news from BBC and other places, as well as trying to ferret out as much as I can from the biased US news sources; if it's important or sounds fishy, I go looking elsewhere.

And Frem is right about the time factor...I tend to watch different news sources and, when an item is reported that interests me, I go to the internet to see what I can find about it. That takes time!


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Tuesday, March 15, 2011 12:38 AM

I tend to catch some stuff on MSNBC, some on CNN, but most either via online sources or podcasts. I'm given free reign at work, so I get to listen to A LOT of news/public interest stuff, usually 8-10 hours a day. When you've got so many sources pouring info your way, you tend to get a whole lot of different viewpoints represented.

The reason I had MSNBC on the other morning was that I was laid up at home and didn't really care to hear the local news, weather, and traffic reports *again*, so I flipped over to MSNBC and got inundated with earthquake/tsunami coverage. A few images was all it took for me to say, "Hoe-lee FUCK, this is BAD..."

And their reportage stayed on most of the weekend, even pre-empting their usual "Lockup" weekend marathon until the wee hours of the morning(s).



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Tuesday, March 15, 2011 12:40 AM

I dug around the internet a lot for my news. I thought I got diverse POVs doing that, plus ran into some unedited video that was more than just 'highlights'.

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Tuesday, March 15, 2011 2:26 AM

Meghan's has a point about American news networks not always doing well at covering world affairs. I think though that when it is something like this, huge earthquake in Japan, they do a little better than usual. I'm one of those people who, when something happens, turns on the news to see it and watch it unfold. Maybe that's rude or unfeeling, call it what you will, I've just always been that way ever since I was a little girl.

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