Israel

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Mostly, from what I've seen, shunning, which involves not talking to people except on a cursory level, mostly comes about because someone has tried to destroy the community.

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In my shunning, they *accused* me of trying to destroy the community. They always use that as their reason. Whether it is actually true or not is another question.


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Everything I say is just my opinion, not fact.

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CAntt, I imagine shunning is a depressing experience, do you have contact with your family now at all?

Its a lot easier to talk about peace than to actually find it or achieve it.

I do think that introducing cocaine into the community does sound destructive, I think that, for some, being shunned would indeed make them want to behave more in accordance with what people are asking of them. Is it fair? Well personally I'm not so sure it is, but I'm not in charge of how they do things so it isn't really my place. At least the Amish are willing to use medicines/hospitals when its necessary, some people won't do that and I think that can be a problem.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Originally posted by dmaanlileiltt:
I think during the Cold War it was due to the Soviets supporting the Arab states. When the USSR collapsed, the US government couldn't really just cut all ties and probably didn't want to.

"I really am ruggedly handsome, aren't I?"

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The US gives more aid to arab nations than to Isreal...almost two fold. Egypt and Jordon(combined) alone get equal to what Isreal gets. This has always been one of Ron Paul's pet peeves. Cut foriegn aid to all of them. And Isreal would be stronger for it.

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Hell, I had one PA community of em shun me after one of them tried to attack me with a shovel from behind for no reason I could ever determine, and I beat the crap out of him - kinda pissed me off too, cause I had a good trade relationship goin on with em up to that point.

Far as Israel goes, I got nothin nice to say about em, but I do take issue that when an American politician feels his first campaign stop should be to go prostrate hisself before a foreign power which "rewards" our bend-over-backwards efforts to lick their boots with sabotage, espionage and deceit - any candidate for a public office HERE should not be required to kowtow to them, and any who does should be suspect in their priorities.

Funny thing related to that, though, I stopped at a local barbershop for a trim, and when I noticed the barber wearing a yarmulke (sp?) - I slowly turned away to leave, not wanting to ask and possibly offend the guy, but not wanting to do biz with a possible zionista either, and so he asks me (and he didn't sound upset, just dissappointed)...

"You are anti-semetic ?"
"No, got no problem with your people, just your beliefs."
"You dislike Judaism ?"
"And Christianity, and Islam, yes."
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"Wow, you must hate everybody, then."
"Don't hate everybody, ain't MET everybody..."
"Ha! well, I am a barber as well as a jew, can you not compromise ?"

Smart guy, I let him cut my hair, most folks once they realize you dislike thier beliefs get all offended, but he didn't see any reason that should get in the way of biz, and neither did I.

Amazing how PEOPLE can always seem to work it out, once you remove God and Government from the picture, yes ?

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
You're still an idiot. Some things never change. How many Palestinians do you know? Or Muslims at all?

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Its not the ones I know that are the problem.

Its the ones dancing in the streets on Sept 11, 2001. I note for the record that it is not Allah that saved those people from death that day...its the mercy of the American people. If the roles had been completely reversed and we'd been gathered in our streets celebrating like that and they were the wounded superpower, they'd have been dropping daisey cutters on Main Street, USA to that us for our support.

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009.
"I would rather not ignore your contributions." Niki2, 2010.

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Never had any problem with Muslims.

Had a real problem with the "Nation of Islam" monkeys.

But thats a more personal war.



"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"

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Originally posted by Hero:
Its the ones dancing in the streets on Sept 11, 2001.

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Yanno, there were Israelis dancing on 9/11/01 too.

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/fiveisraelis.html

At some point, one has to ask, do these dancing fools (or bombing fools or whatever fools do) represent all of Israel or all of Palestine?

If not, why penalize those who WEREN'T dancing (or bombing etc)?



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DT, how about those who are BORN INTO the community? Their only choice is to be cut off from all friends and family if they don’t “play by the rules”. That’s pretty harsh. And yes, the “reasons” for shunning are sometimes questionable. I admire their sense of community, but I did the Mormons, too, until I learned more.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off

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