Shutting Off the Internet
POSTED BY: AnthonyT
UPDATED: Tuesday, February 8, 2011 19:28
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Boy, you sure are having problems with your reasoning facilities today, aren't you Wulf? You've taken a 180-degree turn again. You posted about a CNN story, which I challenged, and then you come back and instead address the "turn off the internet" subject as if you'd never posted anything else.
You never answered for yourself; HOW does what CNN reported have anything whatsoever to do with censorship? You posted it, so explain it. Only you won't, will you? You'll just spout something unrelated--for gawd's sake, GUNS? KATRINA? You're wandering even further off track than usual today...
Let's try again: What do guns, Katrina, etc., have to do with shutting off the internet?? Try that one on for size! But only AFTER you've explained what the CNN story has to do with censorship. That one's still too weird to figure out.
You're just ranting...you should go watch TV or a video or something, you're not having much luck keeping up. Try another day.
Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off 
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An another article outlining the 'kill switch' legislation.
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/218622/the_internet_kill
_switch_that_isnt.html
I'm surprised there hasn't been more comment on it here, slippery slope and all that.
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Quote:
Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Look what happened in Egypt.
Our government can, and will, if there is reason enough to do so.
Must plan for that contingency.
My first reaction when I heard of the internet shutdown in Egypt was to think of the Spanish Civil War, and the oft-expressed idea that the Nazis used it as a "testing ground" for their new weapons and tactics (and that such a thing was profoundly horrific of them to do) . That's exactly what the Egypt shutdown reminded me of - we're using Egypt (our ally, after all!) as a proving ground for trying out methods of shutting down the flow of information.
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"You never answered for yourself; HOW does what CNN reported have anything whatsoever to do with censorship? You posted it, so explain it. Only you won't, will you? You'll just spout something unrelated--for gawd's sake, GUNS? KATRINA? You're wandering even further off track than usual today...
Let's try again: What do guns, Katrina, etc., have to do with shutting off the internet?? Try that one on for size! But only AFTER you've explained what the CNN story has to do with censorship. That one's still too weird to figure out."
The CNN report was SLANTED. It may not exactly BE censorship, but it IS controlling the debate.
Which is therfor controlling how news is perceived.
And therby censoring the free exchange of ideas.
You complain about it all the time with Fox, Nicki. Its not a complete erasure of information, but a controlled directive of that information. Which is somehow worse.
What do guns, katrina, and shutting off the internet have to do with each other? Really? You don't see... for the love of... ok. I'll explain.
Control.
You cut off the internet to control/attempt to control the people getting/transmitting information.
After Katrina, instead of helping people, the governor tried to disarm them using the police.
Look what happened in Egypt. Look what happened in Katrina. We must be prepared for it is all Im saying, and not blindly give the government even more power to stop/control/hurt us.
For the magical hope-changey bunny to WANT the power to shut of the internet... well it SHOULD be ringing ALL sorts of alarm bells.
"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"
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“What's next? Orgy rooms? Menage a trois rooms?"
Hello,
Wouldn't that be something?
I'll vote for her if she can arrange it. ;-)
Wulf,
I'm sorry that the negative press about the Tea Party seems like 'slant' and 'censorship' to you.
The truth is, a lot of people aren't warm and fuzzy with the Tea Party. And you shouldn't be, either.
What good is there for you to spit out one hook, only to swallow another? If you really love the Tea Party, you should be fighting against its inequities, and not ignoring them. You should be recognizing that Ron Paul's 2008 campaign has given way to something different.
And you should ask yourself if that's the direction you really want the Tea Party to go in.
As long as the Tea Party doesn't have ending the wars as one of its top issues, it's hard to take them seriously about anything. They have been paid for. Bring back the rEVOLution, else you ought to have no use for their facade.
--Anthony
Assured by friends that the signal-to-noise ratio has improved on this forum, I have disabled web filtering.
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The genie is well and truly OUT of that bottle - there's no way in hell to shut it off, all you'll do is encourage geeks and mad science types to work around it, in fact, it'd be a CHALLENGE, the gauntlet tossed, as it were.
Think about it, just look what happens every time some dickheaded corporation comes up with supposedly "foolproof" DRM ?
Lasts maybe, MAYBE 24 hours, if that, don't it ?
Shit, you think people weren't ALREADY prepared for that - come on, signal intel is one of my specialties, and watching the back channels light up like a xmas tree was extremely gratifying.
There is, literally, no way in hell you can stop communication of information, it's going to happen, because it slipped the leash and the beast got loose, any time the powers that be wanna shove it back in the cage, there's *going* to be some lunatic like me sawing out the back bars even as they try.
-Frem
I do not serve the Blind God.
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Speaking of DRM's I got Assassin's Creed II on sale and can't get to gorram thing to run. Apparently my wifi isn't stable enough for ubisoft to be sure I didn't pirate it...
I'm of half a mind to take the game back and download a pirated version that doesn't need an internet connection to function. There is no multiplayer after all and no reason an internet connection should be required. There's a serious problem when it's easier to pirate and play a video game than to actually buy it legally...
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Frem,
yes, my sister was telling me it only took about 24 hours for the egyptian revolutionaries to jury-rig a texting to audio to text over the landline phone SMS system.
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Quote:
Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
So... lets just give Obama who is President right now... and ALL Presidents here after, the right to turn off the internet, the phones, the radio, tv etc ANYTIME they feel that the people are getting too
Crazy.
Suuuuure.
Lets also allow those self same folks to confiscate our guns when a crisis happens.
After all, they are the ones with authority and best know how to handle it right?
Why, just look at what happened after Katrina in New Orleans.
GREAT idea! Lets ALL put our full faith in government.
After all, they know whats best.
Wulf, who is it that you imagine is doing such things? WHO is proposing giving any President that power? I've heard exactly ONE Senator make that proposal; his name is Joseph Lieberman, and apparently he won't be running for reelection. That sounds like a win for America, in my book.
By the way, putting ALL your faith in any one thing is rather foolhardy. I don't trust ANYONE with EVERYTHING. Not government, not "gods", not anyone. Not even myself...
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Originally posted by TheHappyTrader:
Speaking of DRM's I got Assassin's Creed II on sale and can't get to gorram thing to run. Apparently my wifi isn't stable enough for ubisoft to be sure I didn't pirate it...
I'm of half a mind to take the game back and download a pirated version that doesn't need an internet connection to function. There is no multiplayer after all and no reason an internet connection should be required. There's a serious problem when it's easier to pirate and play a video game than to actually buy it legally...
That sucks. In a case like this, I'd recommend the pirated version, BUT KEEP THE LEGIT VERSION, just in case. That way, if you get nailed for the pirated one (not likely), you can show them the real version and say, "But I bought it!"
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