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Illegal drugs

POSTED BY: WhooDahn
UPDATED: Saturday, April 3, 2004 20:49
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Friday, April 2, 2004 6:04 PM

I had forgotten about the "drops" reference and such. Clearly, then, there is a market and those willing to fill it.

However, I do find it unlikely that Mal would deal in drugs unless they were generally legal to possess. Recall that from the very beginning (or the very end, if you are Fox, but I digress) he expressed a great aversion to human trafficking (aka slavery, which is explicitly mentioned as such a couple times). Recreational drugs have a long shared history with that business. Really, addiction is just another form of slavery. Mal is a champion of human freedom and dignity, just don't tell him that to his face. He would refuse such a run unless forced into it by a threat to his ship and/or crew or deceived as to what it was (which would make a good plotline right there).

Remember: his first thought after the money is how many people the drugs Simon is willing to help them steal could help out in the colonies. He gets rich AND he gets to feel like a hero, while snookering the Alliance in the bargain. And if things go right, nobody really suffers for it. That right there is his litmus test: will the little guy suffer if he does it? Over and over we see his answer.

Badger? Quite probably he deals in such. Niska? I would be shocked if he didn't! Mal, never.

Jayne...?

Now there's another possibility for a plotline.
"Took a little job on the side!"
"Jayne? Remember the airlock?"

P.S. Now there is something that nobody has brought up yet: what if the Reavers are druggies? There are drugs that help protect against the effects of radiation to a point: maybe the one they used has some...side-effects? Now there would be contraband you would not want to get caught with! (It would also explain their madness.) Just a random thought.

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Friday, April 2, 2004 6:50 PM

so, isn't there a reference to drug smuggling in "Serenity"? I have a vague memory of Simon saying something along the lines of: "so just what have I gotten myself into? I deserve to know. Is it blah, blah, drugs, blah?" (or maybe it's Mal asking what Simon would kill for prior to the River reveal)

it could be a reference to smuggling legal drugs, of course.

Anybody with a better memory remember the scene?

Chuck

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Friday, April 2, 2004 8:01 PM

Fops OTHER crackpot drug theory:

Before the war, everbody was a pothead. The Alliance, who were in power at the time, started to impose heavy taxes on ganja going to the rim worlds. In protest, the labourers of Canton pitched incoming crates of mary-jane into the mud pits rather than paying the exhorbinant taxes, and others followed suit, eventually becoming the Independents. The Browncoats took to growing their own weed, and got pie eyed on hashish before going into battle. It made them hugely dangerous fighters, but also prone to distraction, and many a battle was lost because the soldiers were distracted by the groovy reflections coming off their gun barrels.


Hey, why do you think Zoe and Mal's Platoon ate those apples so fast? Munchies


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Friday, April 2, 2004 8:44 PM

How about this:
The cattle in Shindig/Safe were not for food and milk but to provide manure for 'shrooms.



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Friday, April 2, 2004 11:14 PM

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P.S. Now there is something that nobody has brought up yet: what if the Reavers are druggies? There are drugs that help protect against the effects of radiation to a point: maybe the one they used has some...side-effects? Now there would be contraband you would not want to get caught with! (It would also explain their madness.) Just a random thought.


After we started this thread I got to thinking the same thing. They could all be drop taking, dope smoking, tatooted long hairs that ride space ships instead of motorcycles.

They all wear human skin jackets that say "Reavers" with a skull and cross rockets. They are named after the famous John Reaver, who, after a night of binge drinking, in the year 2059 raced across the Sputnik/NASA launch grounds and jumped on to the back of a missle headed to deep space.

His loyals followers were first known as the "Johns" but later changed the name to "Reavers" They became know for searching the known universe for the original John Reaver who they believe is still riding the back of a deep space rocket.

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Friday, April 2, 2004 11:36 PM

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Originally posted by WhooDahn:
After we started this thread I got to thinking the same thing. They could all be drop taking, dope smoking, tatooted long hairs that ride space ships instead of motorcycles.

They all wear human skin jackets that say "Reavers" with a skull and cross rockets. They are named after the famous John Reaver, who, after a night of binge drinking, in the year 2059 raced across the Sputnik/NASA launch grounds and jumped on to the back of a missle headed to deep space.

His loyals followers were first known as the "Johns" but later changed the name to "Reavers" They became know for searching the known universe for the original John Reaver who they believe is still riding the back of a deep space rocket.

LOL!

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Friday, April 2, 2004 11:44 PM

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Originally posted by Succatash:
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Originally posted by WhooDahn:
After we started this thread I got to thinking the same thing. They could all be drop taking, dope smoking, tatooted long hairs that ride space ships instead of motorcycles.

They all wear human skin jackets that say "Reavers" with a skull and cross rockets. They are named after the famous John Reaver, who, after a night of binge drinking, in the year 2059 raced across the Sputnik/NASA launch grounds and jumped on to the back of a missle headed to deep space.

His loyals followers were first known as the "Johns" but later changed the name to "Reavers" They became know for searching the known universe for the original John Reaver who they believe is still riding the back of a deep space rocket.

LOL!



Most people don't realize that the Reavers aren't landing on planets and boarding space ships to attack people, they are just....drum roll please....looking for a John.

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Saturday, April 3, 2004 12:19 AM

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Originally posted by WhooDahn:
Most people don't realize that the Reavers aren't landing on planets and boarding space ships to attack people, they are just....drum roll please....looking for a John.



You know...I can sympathize. I really can. I was once running around Downtown Atlanta looking for a place, ANY place, that had a public restroom. Were it not for some friendly construction workers and their porta-potty, I too would have been ready to eat human flesh and sew somebody's skin into a jacket.

There are times when we all turn a little barbaric. That's mine.

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Saturday, April 3, 2004 1:40 AM

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Originally posted by Talvin:
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Originally posted by WhooDahn:
Most people don't realize that the Reavers aren't landing on planets and boarding space ships to attack people, they are just....drum roll please....looking for a John.



You know...I can sympathize. I really can. I was once running around Downtown Atlanta looking for a place, ANY place, that had a public restroom. Were it not for some friendly construction workers and their porta-potty, I too would have been ready to eat human flesh and sew somebody's skin into a jacket.

There are times when we all turn a little barbaric. That's mine.



That's why civilized cities like Rome have public fountains... Umm, never mind.

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Saturday, April 3, 2004 8:49 PM

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After we started this thread I got to thinking the same thing. They could all be drop taking, dope smoking, tatooted long hairs that ride space ships instead of motorcycles.

They all wear human skin jackets that say "Reavers" with a skull and cross rockets. They are named after the famous John Reaver, who, after a night of binge drinking, in the year 2059 raced across the Sputnik/NASA launch grounds and jumped on to the back of a missle headed to deep space.

His loyals followers were first known as the "Johns" but later changed the name to "Reavers" They became know for searching the known universe for the original John Reaver who they believe is still riding the back of a deep space rocket.



John Reaver was heard yelling "No power in the verse can stop me" as he raced toward the rocket ship. Since the words didn't make any sense, those that heard him thought he was singing a Bob Dylan song as he was prone to do when he got drunk. John Reaver's famous last words have lived through the centuries and there is still debate if he was refering to the universe or a really bad song.

500 years later and thousands of miles from the Earth that was, Reavers are still searching for John and listening to Bob Dylan. False reports of Reavers landing on planets and killing men, women and children causing them to die in screaming agony are easiliy explained by the loud speakers that some of the Reavers put on their ships and listening to heavy metal music as they look for John.

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