So... a higher body count if Firefly went the distance on TV-?
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Saturday, August 14, 2010 03:21
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
As is, the body count was high enough- more and I might have been too turned off to continue wanting to care.
Just sayin'.
The body count was already too high.
I'm rarely entertained by writers who have to kill beloved characters to make a point.
Toy Story III's ending had tears running down my cheeks because of insight and connections.
It is a cheap shot for the writer to tell his audience,
"Look at me! I can kill 'em all!"
The better writer can carry his characters through troubles without seeming cliche or trite.
I don't care for Joss' prediliction for killing characters; totally ruined Dr. Horrible for me.
I wanted to see Dr. Horrible turn his "evil" against phony do-gooders, not see a light-hearted romp turned into a THUD! morality tale.
Killing off beloved characters in light-hearted action tales;
It's not clever,
it's not insightful or enlightening,
it's not commercial.
It satisfies a niche audience at the cost of greater acceptance.
Firefly appealed to a larger audience than the BDM Serenity, in part because its sensibilities were lighter at the behest of FOX. If FOX hadn't effed with the scheduling and if they hadn't allowed Joss to murder off his characters, I'd argue that Firefly would rank up there with Star Trek as long lasting and influential.
Sadly, we're left with influential and a short burst of shiny goodness.
Mike
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I wonder how it would have gone down if they had killed off Mal in ep1 and made Zoe the centric character? That's what Lost were originally going to do with Jack Shepherd
Peacekeeper---keeping order in every verse!!!
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No one dies.
Everyone lives happily ever after
Big, friendly meals around the dinner table every night.
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Quote:That's too far the other way. Me- I'm thinkin' a place in the middle.
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No one dies.
Everyone lives happily ever after
Big, friendly meals around the dinner table every night.
The laughing Chrisisall
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:That's too far the other way. Me- I'm thinkin' a place in the middle.
Originally posted by AURaptor:
No one dies.
Everyone lives happily ever after
Big, friendly meals around the dinner table every night.
Great. Now I'm wide awake, chained up in a box, at the bottom of the cold ocean.
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Angel?
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Sometimes I like to pretend the BDM was an elaborate fanfiction and all nine of our Big Damn Heroes are still flyin'
assuming the movie never happened, I could see either Wash, Kaylee or Simon dying, but only one of those. In my opinion, the pilot, doctor and mechanic are the least replaceable and we can't expect River to be able to do all three jobs at once. Of course Book and Inara would have been goners (though I'd keep hoping Simon finds that cure up until the end).
I think Jayne would survive just because the 'verse loves irony.
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:That's too far the other way. Me- I'm thinkin' a place in the middle.
Originally posted by AURaptor:
No one dies.
Everyone lives happily ever after
Big, friendly meals around the dinner table every night.
Great. Now I'm wide awake, chained up in a box, at the bottom of the cold ocean.
Well played.
Joking aside, I agree with Chris, somewhere in the middle.
I think it's very effective to kill someone off now and then, as the story warrants.
No one every dying makes things a bit too pat and unbelievable. Scorching the Earth is too harsh.
Nor would I be trouble by the idea of several dying over the course of the series. In a longer form, it would be spread out enough.
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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Angel?
heh heh...yeah.
I countered Joss's standard vision w/ one of his own... to the other extreme.
I knew it was a bit much to ask for, but hey... one can dream.
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I think Inara would have died, probably in season 2 or 3. I honestly wonder if Joss would have killed Mal and let Zoe take over, or possibly done something to put Mal out of commission for at least half a season...I do think Joss wanted Zoe to run the ship at some point, but with Mal as the lead character, I'm not sure how that would work out with him gone. I think Simon was headed towards a Wesley-type arc, and I could see the catalyst for that being Kaylee's or River's death, with him then dying, but I don't think he would have been killed off until season 6 or 7 (and I think Mal would have been the one to kill him b/c of their scene at the end of the pilot....or the other way around). I think if Simon died River would follow shortly after or vice-versa. I think Jayne was going to outlast them all (like a cockroach, never dies) and end up becoming a preacher.
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