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Republicans want bailout for BP...?!!?!

POSTED BY: Niki2
UPDATED: Wednesday, June 9, 2010 18:52
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Tuesday, June 8, 2010 5:25 PM

Hey, I don't care who sues them, I just want to see everything possible done to hold them responsible--and the only way to make a dent in the abuses of private enterprise is to hit them in the pocket book!

I don't think anyone could get elected in Alaska unless they were pro-drilling. It's a mentality. Just as I don't think anyone could elected in California if they WERE pro-drilling. Even the Govenator has jumped on board.

Another issue we have is abortion: We currently have one candidate running who is anti-choice: Fiorina. It's funny...look up "anti-abortion candidate California, and you'll get more than a page of "Anti-abortion Group to Campaign for CA Candidate" and nothing else. I hope to gawd she doesn't make it, she's an idiot. They say her bigger problem is her connection with HP. We'll see.

The problem here is that So. Ca. is inhabited by far more conservative, older, white Republicans than otherwise, whereas the opposite is true in No. Ca. So we have to outnumber THEM (plus any Repubs in No. Ca.) to do anything...which we failed to do in the election of the Govenator, and Prop. 8. Sigh...can't win 'em all!

But drilling? No problem here...the opposite in Alaska. Dunno about Oklahoma.


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Tuesday, June 8, 2010 5:28 PM

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A security deposit for an industry that has shown a tendency for periodic disasters.
I think that kind of mirrors insurance premium, doesn't it? They pay the premium, insurance picks up the tab. Which means a raise in the cap = higher insurance premiums. That's the argument for not upping the cap; that it would make "mom and pop" oil companies unable to pay insurance premiums.

I'm sorry if that's the case, and I don't like the mega-oil companies benefitting from it, but the bottom line is "you make a mess, you clean it up" as far as I'm concerned.


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To our President: “Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar. Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.... oh, go fuck yourself, Mr. President” ...Raptor

To Anthony, unquestionably the most civil person on this forum: “Go fuck yourself. On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you. ...Raptor

To Frem: “You miserable piece of shit.” ...Raptor

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Tuesday, June 8, 2010 5:36 PM

Niki,

DT makes a very good point. You CAN change existing law going forward, but you can't really change THIS law for THIS spill, unless you can word the law so that it says "any damages from any oil spilled on or after the date of June 10, 2010..." for example. But you don't get to change the law AFTER the crime, and then go back and punish someone under the new law for what wasn't a crime when they committed it.

It's funny how nobody ever complains about "activist judges" when they radically reduce the amounts of penalties and fines, isn't it?

Mike

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Tuesday, June 8, 2010 6:09 PM

I recognize the problem, and like the suggested solutions.

Activist judges? That's a laugh! I'd bet the most "activist" judges have been Conservatives...would have to look it up to be sure, but it's a safe bet. They SEEM to have more of an investment in telling people how to live, despite that being the popular claim about Liberals.

But that's a topic for another thread.


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To our President: “Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar. Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.... oh, go fuck yourself, Mr. President” ...Raptor

To Anthony, unquestionably the most civil person on this forum: “Go fuck yourself. On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you. ...Raptor

To Frem: “You miserable piece of shit.” ...Raptor

To Niki: “My guess is it won't just be your ugly face you dislike.....Well, it's true......if you had a soul.” ...Raptor

...Remember, remember, the ugliest member...

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Tuesday, June 8, 2010 6:14 PM

Does any of this surprise anyone anymore? Congress is corrupt. Always has been and always will be. The oil spill is bad news. We really should be suing whoever torpedoed it.

Which actually isn't as far fetched as it sounds. It's possible. But the "puppet theater" doesn't like to talk about things like that.

Case in point. A couple of weeks before the "accident" Obama announced new offshore drilling programs. Then the Deepwater Horizon mysteriously explodes, causing a massive disaster. Now there's a moratorium on deep water drilling because of the disaster. Obama gets to point fingers at BP and gets to seriously reduce offshore drilling.

Seems pretty convenient.

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Tuesday, June 8, 2010 6:20 PM

Solution: alter the constitution to legitimize ex post facto crimes. Next, take corporate personhood to its logical conclusion, and apply the death penalty to BP.

Agreed that the realistic, and legal solution, is civil.

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Tuesday, June 8, 2010 6:28 PM

I agree; in my opinion, this is another crackpot conspiracy. Whatever else he may be, I refuse to believe Obama would cause something like this to further his agenda.

Just for you:




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To our President: “Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar. Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.... oh, go fuck yourself, Mr. President” ...Raptor

To Anthony, unquestionably the most civil person on this forum: “Go fuck yourself. On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you. ...Raptor

To Frem: “You miserable piece of shit.” ...Raptor

To Niki: “My guess is it won't just be your ugly face you dislike.....Well, it's true......if you had a soul.” ...Raptor

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Tuesday, June 8, 2010 6:30 PM

Wouldn't it be possible to use the "corporations as persons" argument to do it anyway? Probably not, I don't know the law, but it sure seems a logical extension...


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To our President: “Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar. Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.... oh, go fuck yourself, Mr. President” ...Raptor

To Anthony, unquestionably the most civil person on this forum: “Go fuck yourself. On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you. ...Raptor

To Frem: “You miserable piece of shit.” ...Raptor

To Niki: “My guess is it won't just be your ugly face you dislike.....Well, it's true......if you had a soul.” ...Raptor

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Tuesday, June 8, 2010 6:35 PM

Not really. Most of the benefits of personhood, pretty much none of the drawbacks. Its a rad gig, and I'm trying to figure out a way to incorporate myself...currently offering Mincingbeast stock. Its worthless.

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Tuesday, June 8, 2010 6:40 PM

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Originally posted by mincingbeast:
Not really. Most of the benefits of personhood, pretty much none of the drawbacks. Its a rad gig, and I'm trying to figure out a way to incorporate myself...currently offering Mincingbeast stock. Its worthless.




Which means it can only go up! Mincingbeast Inc. is a growth industry! It's the way of the future!



Hell, there ARE worse things to invest in. Adobe Systems comes to mind...

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