Theory about China? Anybody? Also, medical discussion
POSTED BY: Iremisst
UPDATED: Sunday, April 20, 2025 00:31
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Don't even get me started on the horrors of a State deciding whether folks can have children, or how many, the truth of that is a nightmare beyond your comprehension, and you're probably better off for it.
THAT policy is, imho, the singlemost abusive of all Chinas human rights violations combined, a root of many evils, and the seed of their own destruction as a nation and culture.
If you wanna know, really want to know enough to dive into a rabbithole and risk the mental consequences of the fallout from such policies, however, I will give you just two words, which are plenty enough.
Ceausescu's children.
-Frem
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Nice. I bet you find dead retarded babies a laff riot, eh?
What's Nancy Pelosi have to do with this?
H
"Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009.
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Nice. I bet you find dead retarded babies a laff riot, eh?
What's Nancy Pelosi have to do with this?
H
"Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009.
About as much as Trig Palin. Why do you ask?
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It strikes me that Much of this doesn't make a whole lot of sense, and a fair amount of it is sarcasm and mike cant identify sarcasm on site ( oh, ad just in case that's really true, there it just was)
Here's another theory, just because this has turned out tonbe the case in crimes in the past, such as companies shooting their workers in the 80s... That didn't really happen, it was the cover story for the govt massacring folks. Given the lost tradition of this for the commies, it cant be ruled out as a possibility, sort of like the "rule by example" which doesn't officially happen, but really, it does really happen. Not saying it's probable, just Possible.
Oh, and Mike, it's not furrier, phooey, that was Fuhrer, or should have been. Anyway, it's Chairman. Bear in mind that Chairman Mao was actually substantially worse than the Fuhrer, killing many times as many of his countrymen, women and children. The only worse leader on an absolute scale is arguably Stalin, who also was largely responsible for the rise of Mao.
There is a national psychosis re kids, with the one child as being the anchor for that... Bah socialism.
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Maybe all that China school killing/slashing is a byproduct of their culture that includes eating dogs, drowning baby girls, and watching a lot of Tom Cruise movies.
Another big factor is they all look alike. Imagine if everyone, even your spouse, looked just like you....that would drive you insane at some point, right?
I've had the same thing said to me about Westerners by a Chinese person. Someone somewhere has done a study on feature recognition across races.
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Magonsdaughter
People look for different hints. The shape of the skull varies tremendously among the Chinese, and basically not at all for Caucasians, but there is basically almost no difference in coloration among the Chinese, some are slightly lighter, but thats about it, so they wouldn't measure that as much.
But sommome of it is personal. I have some friends who have twins in the family, and the kids develop very early on means for telling the twins apart, the shape of the nose, curve of the chin, these things undoubtedly figure heavy into their reading of other faces they meet later in life.
I'm certain Jong was joking.
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DT: I'm certain Jong was trying to be funny, too. I'm pretty sure Michael Richards was trying to be funny as well. So was Don Imus. Funny stuff, eh? Let's all sit around and tell our favorite ni**er and Jew jokes, and see how funny that gets.
Saying it's a joke doesn't mean it's any less offensive or stupid a thing to say.
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It seems that this thread has disenegrated from its original question. But that is not going to stop me. There have been some things said I must add in my two cents, mostly because some right and some wrong has been voiced. I am, of course, ignoring nimrod cannon ball opinions. My credentials to say all of this is that I have studied Chinese culture including living there for some time. That said...
I think the multiple occurrences have a lot to do with a reactions being contagious. Think back to the school shootings in America. We could have asked the same thing about Americans then. What it boiled down to was a person with a problem acted out in a very bad way. Other people with similar problems saw this and somehow got the idea that it would be a solution for them too. I am not saying it is an excuse. But this is a factor to remember.
Knives? If you are going to get in a fight in China (a real one, not a few punches thrown), it is going to be with knives. Guns are out of the picture, so knives are the next best thing. They are easy to get a hold of. They do the damage. In a really twisted way, that part of the saga makes sense.
Kids? I think the person who said soft-target had it the closest. The one-child policy doesn't really make children not as valued (it does that to unborn children, but that is a different rant)...it does the opposite. That one kid you have is your one chance so you better not screw it up. Imagine a classroom full of Daddy's little princesses and Mama's perfect angels and that is about what you get. Most normal/well-adjusted kids I met were minority kids whose families were allowed to have more than one. Going for kids was probably the most devastating thing that could have been done. Think of it as the Chinese version of a school shooting.
Why? The mental health situation in China is not good. People who do not conform to what people are supposed to be (this goes for any disability and extends to how much you weigh or what size your wedding ring is) are pointed out and made fun of. It is a kind of group control, like peer pressure was in high school. Result - you do everything to fit into the mold you are supposed to. Which means sometimes denying yourself the help you need, and that was most definitely a factor. Society pressure is ENORMOUS. China probably has one of the highest student suicide rates in the world (India would be a close second). These situations are just taking it one step beyond not getting the grade you wanted on a test. Sad but true.
But more than that...there is evil in the world and every person living has the opportunity to sink to the bottom. Everyone has a breaking point, sad as that may be. Add to that that people are inherently selfish... Again, not an excuse. Sounds a bit cliche I am sure, but it is true and experience has held that up. While the government there may be responsible for many things, I don't think this is one of them. There are too many other incidents in other countries just as terrible for this to be just a China problem.
The one question I don't see being asked is "We're actually hearing about this?" The media in China is so tightly controlled I find it hard to believe that this made it out. There was a knife fight that killed a student and sent another to the hospital at a university I was at and the next day NOBODY said anything! The one peep we heard was quickly turned the next day into "Oh, I don't know who it was." If there are more incidents, I doubt we will be hearing about them.
So there are my two cents. Rip away.
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Unfortunately, this is far from the sickest weirdness that's happened in China. I came across this in research for another thread.
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Some of the most extreme violence took place in the southern province of Guangxi, where a Chinese journalist found a "disturbing picture of official compliance in the systematic killing and cannibalization of individuals in the name of political revolution and 'class struggle.'"[31] Senior party historians acknowledge that "In a few places, it even happened that 'counterrevolutionaries' were beaten to death and in the most beastly fashion had their flesh and liver consumed [by their killers]."[32] Not even the minor children of 'enemies of the people' were spared, as more than a few were tortured and bludgeoned to death, dismembered and some of their organs - hearts, livers, and genitals - eaten during 'human flesh banquets'.[33] As a result of this frenzied killing and 'obligatory cannibalism', an estimated 100,000 people were killed in Guangxi alone.[33]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Revolution
Google "cannibalism cultural revolution" and you'll find more.
I've got to wonder if the recent killings are the result of 60 years of indoctrination of the population gone very wrong.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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