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Okay, I am officially on board with the new JJprise as true Enterprise. Honestly, I personally could have designed the definitive ship using ideas from all three, but I accept what is. Change is the essential nature of all existence, I guess.
Now phasers? Well, this remains the only one for me. Some others looked okay, the one in the new movie photographs nicer than most, but the original was perfect, & need never have been radically re-designed IMO.
Likewise with the communicator, although I'm not a stickley about the interior as I am that it be a flip-up gold mesh.
_to be continued_ 
The laughing Chrisisall
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I admit bias. I saw the original series in the sixties and it was the first serious space travel science fiction series to hit prime time. I naturally tuned into the "The Next Generation" and all the rest, but they relied on techno babble to resolve many episodes and I often wondered why they kept the holo deck after it cause so many dangerous situations. It was a pleasant surprise when the final series came out and the techno babble was gone.
So no matter how much anyone tells me how great the later series or films are, I know where it started and the challenges of being first to produce a show in this gendre.
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Traveler
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Quote:Me too, but I admit to thinking back then (at ages 6 - 9) that it should have had a robot in it, like another series did...
Originally posted by traveler:
I admit bias. I saw the original series in the sixties and it was the first serious space travel science fiction series to hit prime time.
The laughing Chrisisall
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I admit that I love "Lost in Space". "Never fear, Smith is hear".
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Quote:You ADMIT it then!
Originally posted by traveler:
I admit that I love "Lost in Space". "Never fear, Smith is here".
The Intergalactic High Tribunal finds you GUILTY!
The laughing Chrisisall
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A bubbleheaded booby as charged.
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:Me too, but I admit to thinking back then (at ages 6 - 9) that it should have had a robot in it, like another series did...
Originally posted by traveler:
I admit bias. I saw the original series in the sixties and it was the first serious space travel science fiction series to hit prime time.
The laughing Chrisisall
Fortunately, Lucille Ball was much smarter than you, and knew of the importance of human interaction when far from home.
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
I am officially on board with the new JJprise...
I think the official term should be the iEnterprise, given the uncanny resemblance between the new bridge and an Apple store. Fair's fair - Apple did rip off the Padd.
Not so sure about some of the "not shot inside a chemical factory, honest" areas below decks - apart from the obvious Charlie and the Chocolate Factory call-out they did make me think a bit of the gratuitous giant stomping machine gag in "Galaxy Quest".
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Likewise with the communicator, although I'm not a stickley about the interior as I am that it be a flip-up gold mesh.
The phasers, I agree, are fine (the fact that the phaser pistol consists of a mini-hand phaser docked into a hand-grip is way cool*).
The communicators and tricorders have the problem in that they now look very, very retro (the tricorders always did look like the early portable cassette recorders). This wouldn't matter so much if they stuck with the retro theme throughout - but if you are going to go all Jonathan Ive with the bridge then your handheld kit pretty much has to look like minimalist black slabs. Since black slabs are pretty boring (unless they're full of stars) - maybe that's why Battlestar Galactica 200x stuck with mostly 1980s-esque tech (with some plot justification) and Doctor Who increasingly goes for steampunk or Alien-esque grunge.
And we've nearly got sickbay: recently had a stay in hospital with a very star-trek-esque LCD panel beside my bed. It was even "wireless" - except you still needed to wear electrodes and a transmitter box, so a truly electrode-less system would be great (failing that, a sci-fi adhesive pad that stuck to skin but not chest hairs - current tech is kinda the other way round - would be great). OTOH the real world system let you get up and go to the loo, but then there don't seem to be any heads on the Enterprise anyway...
(* Don't know if much was made of this in the show, but its explained in yellowed and dog-eared copy** of "The Making Of Star Trek" by Stephen Whitfield)
(** Not because I'm a sad act who reads it daily, but because its 35 years old...)
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Originally posted by ImNotHere:
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Not so sure about some of the "not shot inside a chemical factory, honest" areas below decks - apart from the obvious Charlie and the Chocolate Factory call-out they did make me think a bit of the gratuitous giant stomping machine gag in "Galaxy Quest"
That, imho, was in fact the weakest part of the movie, eliciting a growl and rolled eyes from me, certainly - it blew suspension of disbelief, yanno ?
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OTOH the real world system let you get up and go to the loo, but then there don't seem to be any heads on the Enterprise anyway...
Yanno, I didn't go out of my way to collect it, but I wound up with a set of specs and floor plans for most every sci-fi ship around over the years, from the Imperial Star Destroyer to the TCS Concordia (and oddly enough, in that pile is Marvel Comics Iron Manual - the various specs for Iron Mans armor, bet THAT thing is worth a chunk since it's in near mint condition) and as such the specs and floor plans of the Galaxy Class are in there, and I *did* notice a head just off the bridge...
And I notice things, when I can be bothered to watch Star Drek (GNDN Conduits still crack me up, especially when you can SEE the ends don't actually attach to anything) and I do not remember the episode, but in the background of one bridge scene from TNG, someone actually visits it.
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Quote:It was obvious to us kids who drew them & made our own cardboard ones.
Originally posted by ImNotHere:
(* Don't know if much was made of this in the show, but its explained in yellowed and dog-eared copy** of "The Making Of Star Trek" by Stephen Whitfield)
The laughing Chrisisall
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