PN loves giant dildoes in his a**hole!
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UPDATED: Friday, April 23, 2010 03:19
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:No oxygen on the Moon's surface to produce visible flame. Ha! John Lee BUSTED!
Originally posted by piratenews:
No rocket flame on LEM "blastoff" at 0:01. HA! Mythbusters BUSTED.
Go take some science classes, yo.
Not quite so simple , Chris...
Apollo LM used hypergolics , which ignite on contact with each other...MMH and NO4 . One of them functions as the oxidizer ; in essence , the oxygen is in the 'fuel'...
'...The Apollo LM, as advanced in both computer and engineering technology in its day, used hypergolic fuels in both of its stages, chemicals that combust on contact with each other, requiring no ignition mechanism and allowing an indefinite storage period. Both the cryogenic and hypergolic systems, like that of the Apollo LM, will be forced-fed using high-pressure helium, eliminating the need for malfunction-prone pumps utilized in most rocket technology.'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altair_(spacecraft)
Ascent from the Lunar Surface was as simple as turning a valve , whether actuated manually or automatically...
The real reason for no visible flame is that the Moon has NO ATMOSPHERE , and the Lunar surface is extremely bright and reflective due to being naked in the harsh light of the Sun...Many fuels burn with little or no visible flame , but the harsh lighting is sure to dim even 'visible' flames...
Same reason that seeing the stars from the lunar surface is difficult...The lighting of the surface is drowning out the relatively less bright starlight...Just like trying to see stars from a brightly-lit parking lot back home , it ain't easy...
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Go have some fun :
http://www.clavius.org/techlmstab.html
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Quote:Umm, that's what I really MEANT... sort of.
Originally posted by out2theblack:
The real reason for no visible flame is that the Moon has NO ATMOSPHERE
*goes to take a science class*


The laughing Chrisisall
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You know what struck me as funniest about this thread? PN's titles for Obama are getting so long, when I read them I was struck with "gee, d'ya ever think maybe he'll end up with nothing but the title in the thread, and no room for anything else?"
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It's to laugh, the poor pathetic sod...what else do you think he can squeeze in there? Maybe we should start a thread to give him ideas...or suggest Jewish names for him to add...
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"I'm just right. Kinda like the sun rising in the east and the world being round...its not a need its just the way it is." The Delusional "Hero", 3/1/10
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Originally posted by out2theblack:
Apollo LM used hypergolics , which ignite on contact with each other...MMH and NO4 . One of them functions as the oxidizer ; in essence , the oxygen is in the 'fuel'...
The real reason for no visible flame is that the Moon has NO ATMOSPHERE , and the Lunar surface is extremely bright and reflective due to being naked in the harsh light of the Sun...Many fuels burn with little or no visible flame , but the harsh lighting is sure to dim even 'visible' flames...

Night Firing of Shuttle Forward RCS Primary and Vernier Thrusters
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/wstf/propulsion/shuttleFleetLeader.html

Fleet Leader Aft and Forward Reaction Control Subsystems Execute Mission Duty Cycles

Reaction Control System thruster firing on the space shuttle, Joseph P. Allen's book Entering Space (see stars)
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For the Apollo lunar ascent and descent module single main engine and sixteen attitude control thrusters, the fuel and oxidizer were, respectively, hydrazine and nitrogen tetroxide. The space shuttle orbiter also uses hydrazine and nitrogen tetroxide in its Orbital Maneuvering Subsystem and Reaction Control System.
In Entering Space, Allen describes the shuttle thrusters: "The forward primary thrusters sound like exploding cannons at thrust onset; and during their firing, jets of flame shoot out from the orbiter's nose. ...The orbiter reacts to the primaries' shove by shaking slightly and moving very noticeably. For the crew on board, a series of attitude changes using primaries resembles a World War I sea battle, with cannons and mortars firing, flashes of flame shooting in all directions, and the ship's shuddering and shaking in reaction to the salvos."
Images from a surface camera pan the lunar ascent module as it lifts off the surface. The background is a pitch black sky. In this image showing the Apollo 17 lunar ascent module "Challenger" supposedly lifting off from the Taurus-Littrow landing site there is no flame, exhaust, or even engine exhaust shroud visible from the bottom of the lunar ascent module.
The lunar ascent module engine had a 15000 N (3500 lb) thrust. The attitude control thrusters for the Apollo C/SM and LM (which had four sets of quadruple thrusters) had 490 N (110 lb) of thrust each. In comparison, the 38 thrusters for shuttle orbit control each have a nominal thrust of 3870 N (880 lb), with a range from 3114 N to 5338 N. Why is the exhaust visible from the 3870 N shuttle thruster but not from the 15000 N lunar ascent module engine?
I have been unable to find any images or video footage of any visible flame or exhaust coming from any of the four quadruple clusters used for attitude control of the lunar module, or from the main engines of the ascent and descent modules. However, official NASA artists' drawings do show a considerable amount of flame and exhaust emanating from the main engine.
In the films To The Edge And Back covering Apollo 13 and Apollo 13, animation shows the LM main engine emitting a bright flame for the various burns between the earth and the moon. In Apollo 13, animation shows visible flame from the LM thrusters during SM separation from the CM and LM.
http://www.ocii.com/~dpwozney/apollo1.htm

Apollo 17 lunar ascent module "Challenger" supposedly lifting off from the Taurus-Littrow landing site there is no flame, exhaust, or even engine exhaust shroud visible

Apollo 17 LEM after "blastoff from moon" (no heat discoloration of rocket motor, no rocket damage to aluminum foil and scotch tape)

Apollo LEM flies all the way from Moon to Earth
APO
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Richard Hoagland is in shell shock. Obama the new JFK yeh back to space. Woops that didn't work out right. The O ain't gonna touch the military industrial complex or he will end up being another JFK. There in the middle east for awhile. Lots of overtime for the contractors. You gotta slash somewhere. Plus NASA needs overhauled. Really it would be cool if we would take war money up into space. The Navy has new ships and the Air Corps has more drones. Now they did cut back on how many jets cause they don't need em as much. The Army has more beans. Ya know the O's ghetto supporters say ya need to feed da kids. As long as IN AND OUT BURGERS are in buisness there is still hope for Merica.
"Battle of Serenity, Mal. Besides Zoe here, how many-" "I'm talkin at you! How many men in your platoon came out of their alive".
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Originally posted by PirateCat:
Richard Hoagland is in shell shock.
From being separated at birth. He should be happy Obama is going straight to Mars.



Dave Hook... he's dead Jim.
http://www.orwelltoday.com/readermoonsongdavehook.shtml
http://thegeomancer.netfirms.com/emfcancer.htm
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People who don't exist, or who wouldn't have done what they've done if they did exist...
Wait, I'm getting confused. Let me start again.
People who don't exist are upset with a President who doesn't exist for canceling a program that never existed.
Uh. I'm still confused.
I mean, I think it's an issue. I think the space program should go on, to the greatest extent it may. That's not what confuses me. What confuses me is the subject line, and how nothing in it actually exists, yet is still an issue.
Does this thread actually exist?
...Do I exist?
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Good one, River.
Oh, he does love his visuals, don't he? Damned scrolling finger is hurting again...
"I'm just right. Kinda like the sun rising in the east and the world being round...its not a need its just the way it is." The Delusional "Hero", 3/1/10
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