wikileaks video: civilians murdered in Iraq
POSTED BY: mal4prez
UPDATED: Saturday, March 14, 2026 23:03
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Skipped through the " preamble " of the video, as I didn't want to be influenced by just 1 side of the story. i didn't endure the entire 17 + minutes. I watched the incident, and that was all.
From the looks of it, the one's talking clearly THOUGHT they saw something hostile. Many of their fellow soldiers as well as civilians have been killed by such " insurgents ", and that's no lie. So that must be taken into consideration.
However, I didn't see any RPG, or anyone firing.
Easy for us to say, sitting comfortably at home, in our own chairs, at a computer monitor, wearing our fuzzy slippers or what not, where these guys are actually IN the shit, to put it plainly.
Looks like a FUBAR, to be sure.
Not the 1st time this sort of stuff has happened, nor will it be the last.
I can still recall from the 1st Gulf war, where a video of a incident which showed a target being taken out, I think by a Hellfire missile , and it turned out to be a coalition vehicle. ( Not sure if it was British or U.S. ) Point being , even then, every precaution was taken, and the pilot checked and double checked w/ the the chain of command before opening up ...... only to have word come after the fact that it might have been one of ours.
Gee, thanks for the info......
Summer Glau can simply walk into Mordor
Bones: "Don't 'rawr' her!"
Booth: "What? she'rawred' me first."
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GUYS!!
This thread is not about Gino. It is about American soldiers killing unarmed civilians, including civilian minors, and bending, if not outright, violating our own rules of engagement.
My heart feels like it's been broken. I feel like I can't breathe. I would be sobbing if I could breathe. I had nowhere else to go, so I came here.
For those of you who aren't watching this, it is not just the first round of fire that is utterly grievous. If you wish to give these soldiers the benefit of the doubt, be generous in spirit, you might say, the guys made a mistake in thinking one or two people of a group of 8 are carrying weapons. (Even so, isn't it customary to give warning? Drop your weapons or we'll fire? But never mind.) I saw the Hurt Locker. I understand they might have been paranoid.
Here is where this horror movie guts you. One of the 8 people fired on (and remember, only 3 people were mistakenly identified as weapon-carriers--5 were unarmed collateral damage) is gravely wounded and trying to crawl out of the "battlefield." The soldier asks for permission to fire on this obviously injured person, looking for an excuse to fire. Then a van full of people pull up. Two unarmed men get out to carry this injured man into their van.
The soldiers get permission to fire on the van full of civilians, wounding 2 children sitting in the front passenger seat. Now there was no mistaken identification of weapons here. They just fired on a van of people who stopped to help a man we injured on the street.
When the children were discovered later, soldiers tried to evacuate them to a US base hospital to be treated. Command tells them to send them to a local hospital.
I know it is hard to watch, but I think the least we Americans can do, we Americans who pay taxes to fund this operation, is to watch it. For the sake of the people who were murdered. Watch it and be outraged.
If it were you, would't you want people to know? The people who are paying for the guns and the chopper that killed you?
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"I was aiming for his head." -- Richard Castle, Season 2, Episode 18, "Boom"
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The cite states:
"Consequently, WikiLeaks has released the classified Rules of Engagement for 2006, 2007 and 2008, revealing these rules before, during, and after the killings."
I am unable to find these on WikiLinks. Anyone seen them?
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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Double post. Oops.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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Originally posted by Geezer:
I am unable to find these on WikiLinks. Anyone seen them?
They are on the project website: collateralmurder.com
http://collateralmurder.com/en/resources.html
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
This ain't the half of it, there's another massacre they just copped to where our troops went and cut the bullets outta the civvies in an effort to deny culpability
Just in case of any dispute...
Here is the writeup on that one.
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/04/05-2
"US special forces soldiers dug bullets out of their victims' bodies in the bloody aftermath of a botched night raid, then washed the wounds with alcohol before lying to their superiors about what happened."
So this isn't just, yanno, the typical caught in the crossfire kinda stuff, or heat of the moment, it's willful, knowing malice, complete with coverup and lies foisted by a compliant, and complicit media all too willing to quote press reports as if they were the sacred word.
While our forces go out of their way to kill any newsies not on the payroll, and the pentagon plants phony bullshit stories to back their cause.
We're not the good guys, and I think it's time we stopped pretending to be.
-Frem
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CTS,
I'm sorry for prolonging the thread-jack. When I got home from work last night it looked like the whole RWED had been jacked by the Gino/Nikki business.
I feel as you do. This is what war does to people. As I understand it, this is what war invariably does to people. Dehumanization and desensitization are PART OF THE PROGRAM. There is no war without it. This is why more of our soldiers are committing suicide right now than are dying in combat.
I wish to god everyone simply understood this. Seeing people of good conscience talk as if war doesn't create 800 long term, catastrophic problems to solve one is extremely, morally exhausting.
We are so obsessed with the victims, but the real damage, the damage that will have the most horrendous consequences for the human race as a whole, is the violence done to the perpetrators' humanity by their own actions. That we sanction training human creatures to perform this kind of evil, systematically and unreservedly, is the single most shameful thing the human species needs to face.
HKCavalier
Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
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Originally posted by HKCavalier:
That we sanction training human creatures to perform this kind of evil, systematically and unreservedly, is the single most shameful thing the human species needs to face.
(SNARK MODE /ON)
Oh, but it's all ok, cause the Government says so, right ?
Right ?
*hisssss*
-F
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Reuters is often a cover for MI6. These photojournalists may have been British spies specifically targeted by US forces, as done to assassinate dozens of journalists in Iraq to shut them up. British special forces routinely bomb and snipe US troops in Operation Northwoods/Gladio attacks. Or they were spies for USA who accidentally got caught in the kill zone.
This is not a war. Congress never declared war, so there's no commander-in-chief.
This is an extra-judicial police action by criminals who infiltraited govt. Just like Al Capone, who employed 4,000 govt employees just in the Chicago area.
If you want to stop the 'war', only 9/11 Truth can do that, since that's the 'justification' for Afghanistan and Iraq War #2. Only 9/11 Truth and Operation Northwoods can stop a soldier dead in his tracks.
As for these psychokiller pilots, that's the kind of aholes my wife and I filed felony charges against during Iraq War #1. They don't just love their job of killing civilians, they're in love with it, especially when it gets them promoted to general. Hence the death threat recorded on our phone. Pat Tillman was an idiot for not reading my website on how to survive fragging.
www.piratenews.org/pentagonwhistleblower.html
What's really weird is halfway through watching this snuff video, Comcast cut my internet off for 24 hours.
This was the same day Comcast won in the US Court of Appeals, allowing Comcast to throttle or block internet for its customers such as BitTorrent.
Comcast v FCC, US Court of Appeals in DC, No. 08-1291, April 6, 2010
http://www.publicknowledge.org/pdf/comcast-decision.pdf
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&tbo=1&tbs=qdr:w&q=comcast+dc+court+
appeal+fcc&btnG=Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=
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Originally posted by Niki2:
I don't want to watch, Mal4, I don't need to seeit to find out about it. Can you explain briefly? Is this a video of American soldiers killing people? It wasn't quite clear from what you wrote. If so, that's horrendous; I hope it's made public and played worldwide, and that those involved are held responsible.
Sounds like something the Israelis would do the Palestinians...sick!
"I'm just right. Kinda like the sun rising in the east and the world being round...its not a need its just the way it is." The Delusional "Hero", 3/1/10
If you voted for Obama, it's mandatory you watch this to see what your vote paid for.
If you're too cowardly to watch, then you're unfit for citizenship.
The purpose of watching is to get mad enough to DO something about it, beside whine on a forum.
Where's all those fake liberal antiwar protesters now?
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