What does the future hold for Firefly fandom?
POSTED BY: Haken
UPDATED: Thursday, April 29, 2010 13:43
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I do believe that the fandom is growing, but only through 'Geek Circles' so to speak.The only time I ever hear anyone quote from the movie or mention it is in Comic Book shops or Xbox Live. There is even people on XBL with gamertags like 'DustDevilRebel' and 'RiverTamIzDaMan'.In public though, I noticed tons of people who instantly know what 'Buffy The Vampire Slayer' or DollHouse is, but have no idea what 'Firefly' or 'Serenity' is.
The best way I try to promote the show and movie is by saying that it's free on either Hulu or Netflix Watch Instantly. Then they're intersted
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Sigma, could you clarify this? You said something about wanting to "put down" the Blue Sun Room...? For what purpose? Do you believe it distracts people from helping with bigger projects (but not "big" projects, which you don't believe the fandom is capable of anymore).
I'm not sure if this is what you're arguing, but if so, I think it's a little unfair to deny people a place to post fanfiction or pictures. It may not be big projects, it may not contribute much to the community, but it's a hobby, and I think people are allowed to chose how they spend their free time.
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Agreed. It is my understanding, from all my research on the matter, that the original contract was for 10 years, rights and such. If I'm not mistaken that would mean anyone interested in continuing the saga could dos o without any meddling by Fox, or Universal for that matter.
I would think at that point that the actors would be partial to a mini-series or films, but a TV series may not be feasible - not with the original actors (mainly because of previous obligations0. A re-telling of the 'Verse may be in order here. I would prefer our BDH because it just wouldn't be right without them but, I want Firefly back. With the proper backing - it could work.
SGG
Tawabawho?
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Well, can't say I know what the future holds but I reckon my recent past may lend insight. So's you know, I couldn't stand Buffy and wasn't rightly sure who Joss Whedon was before March 2010. (Sorry, been talkin like HucK Finn for days now)
Then, early March, I netflix-stumble upon Serenity in their instant watch section. I settle on the title - still suffering from BSG withdrawal - after trying all manner of substitute for my Starbuck fix (including Caprica).
Long story short, 3 weeks, one movie, and 14 episodes later, I am in a state of shock. As a late-comer, I feel as if I have entered the five stages of grief for a friend I never met.
I have been inconsolable since. Joss Whedon is a frackin GENIUS.
Now, what will I do about this? Not sure. But this I know: No Thing Can Stop The Serenity.
I will sample everything 'verse I can find.
I will join the Browncoats (mind you, as a 46 yo father, this is almost embarrassing to acknowledge).
I will tell anyone who will listen to "give witness" to the DVD.
And, if I ever get a grip on the FOX knucklehead that sealed the Capn's fate, I will "truly meet the man".
Hell, I may even give Buffy another shot.
mourninginchitown
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I agree with SigmaNunki. Unless we do something soon, we will die a slow death.
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Welcome aboard! 46 you say, come fellas make him feel at home. I'm (ugh) 57 and a sci-fi, fantasy aficionado - especially in film. The withdrawal pangs you're feeling is part and parcel, and defines what it's like to be a Browncoat.
Keeping the Verse alive is what we do - mainly by doing what you rightly suggested "giving witness" and passing it on. Oh yeah, there's this site as well. Plus sharing your DVDs with whomever will watch (and even thems that don't).
It's really amazing and shiny how people, once they get past their initial indignation, just absolutely fall in love with this gem. Me, I'm an original Browncoat (that means I watched the show from day one, back in 2002) but didn't come to know this site until recently.
Once again, welcome to the long-suffering die-hards known as Browncoats. No need to dress, chow's in ten.
SGG
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Thanks for the welcome, SGG. Like you, I am a lifelong fan of sci-fi and am very happy to have found this site.
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Ya, sometimes it take forever for me to get back to people.
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Originally posted by Bytemite:
Sigma, could you clarify this? You said something about wanting to "put down" the Blue Sun Room...?
Not wanting as I recall (using your implied definition). Just stating that the quality isn't exactly commercial. Thus, the BSR isn't exactly a wealth of high quality material. So, "put down" in a very different way that what you imply in your post.
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Originally posted by Bytemite:
For what purpose? Do you believe it distracts people from helping with bigger projects (but not "big" projects, which you don't believe the fandom is capable of anymore).
I'm not sure if this is what you're arguing, but if so, I think it's a little unfair to deny people a place to post fanfiction or pictures. It may not be big projects, it may not contribute much to the community, but it's a hobby, and I think people are allowed to chose how they spend their free time.
The only reason why a larger project isn't possible is that people refuse to put in any effort (moral support is all that should be expected), and they refuse to work together on a project not of there own making. Also, in every project I've been involved in (and seen) there is a very flat hierarchy. What I mean by that is that there really isn't much of a leadership in the projects. So, the project goes in all directions, falls into chaos (in more ways than one) and eventually fails.
Thus:
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http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=2&t=42231#767136
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A more grand effort like sketching out planets cities, etc
A more grand effort like creating a 'Bible' for writing fic
Games are another area that is feasible assuming a reasonably small game (or episodic)
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Aren't possible.
I've been willing to start such projects in the past (and have tried), but have run into the no support problem. I've also seen the, I'll help you but why isn't every idea I'm suggesting being put in, problem. As in, people's participation always seems to come with strings attached.
What needs to happen is someone come up with an idea for a project and bang the vision out along with the direction. Then, if/when appropriate, ask for help and be ruthless about maintaining the integrity of the vision and the direction. Help means help, not taking the project in a different direction or multiple directions. That's assuming the fandom actually helps in good numbers and doesn't bitch about the project's vision (assuming the vision is doable that is). That said, once the projects goals are completed, further development is up for debate (assuming it doesn't compromise the integrity of what has already been done). But, to complete a project, it takes laser focus, not feature creep and constant discussions of what could be done additionally, afterward, etc.
At any rate, it's very late and the world isn't as focus-y as it should be. So, I hope the above actually ended up clarifying stuff.
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I am on The Original List (twice). We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"
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@DAMAGEDCALM:
The age range here is (or was last time it was brought up) from the teens to retirees. So, there isn't exactly anything to be ashamed of age wise.
Oh, and if you give Buffy another shot, do watch into the 3rd season before giving up. That's when the show really hits its stride from what I recall. If you end up liking it, you'll thank me/us for the enjoyment you're about to receive.
(NOTE: It should be pointed out that Buffy was a replacement for another show that was canceled 1/2 way through its season. So, Buffy had its 1st season cut in 1/2 and was rushed. At the very least that is the season that should be put up with. The 2nd one is much better, I promise. Joss-isms becoming more dense as time goes on.)
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I am on The Original List (twice). We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"
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SigmaNunki, I'm with Bytemite in thinking you are being too critical of fans who like doing what they like, writing fanfic or photoshopping wallpapers and such. When even established companies have a problem dealing with FOX and Universal and can't complete an MMO, and Dark Horse (and/or Joss) are dragging their feet on "Shepherd's Tale," and now the problems the producers of Courage are having, what makes you think that simple fans are going to be able to do things any better?
wo men ren ran zai fei xing.
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