Companions 'Gilded Cage'
POSTED BY: Bytemite
UPDATED: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 08:47
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I'm also sorry. I really started to get angry later on there. I tend to get really hot tempered a lot lately, it's stress.
Do stay, and talk about Kaylee. It was wrong for me to try to convince Inara is a better person than you think she is, because you are entitled to that after what you went through.
There is little I can do about staying around right now though. But if you want to, you'll hear from me again after the new year.
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...You're blaming her for DYING now?
umm No. I'm blaming her for not being open and honest with the man she supposedly loves. That's what mature, considerate people do in love relationships.
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Oh, that's very nice. Thank you.
OK. That was a cheap shot. I'm sorry for that. But, it wasn't addressed specifically at you but those seem to heap most of the blame on Mal, some of the blame on Nandi and none of the blame on Inara. I was frustrated.
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She shouldn't have caused a PROBLEM by getting upset? Right! Because Mal and Nandi sleeping together is HER fault, not a choice the other two made as adults, which later both regretted because they both care about Inara and didn't mean for her to get hurt.
Well, what does Inara want? for Mal to be her celibate whipping-boy for the remainder of her short life? Where's the love and caring in that?
If she doesn't want an honest, open, sexual, ie. mature relationship with Mal she should set him free to find happiness elsewhere.
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...I'm sorry, man, considering the very negative way you view Inara, whatever happened between you and your ex was clearly ugly, I can't blame you. But don't take it out on us because we LIKE Inara.
haha Well, my ex was a pain in the ass 'tis true, but I don't think that has undue bearing on the points I'm trying to make here.
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I editted out this previous post because I thought it would pour more fuel on the fire. I'm sorry that you had to read it, it was written in anger. You are right, and I shouldn't have brought your ex into it.
A point I made previously, but lost, was this:
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If she doesn't want an honest, open, sexual, ie. mature relationship with Mal she should set him free to find happiness elsewhere.
I believe this is what she was trying to do when she decided to leave. But breaking off like that, it's never a clean cut, and part of her wants to stay still.
It's not her fault she was dragged back in the movie, but after everything was all over, and Mal seemed to be glad to have her around, she is very tempted to stay, and possibly tempted to be honest with him. Or at least that's how I see the movie.
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...I believe this is what she was trying to do when she decided to leave. But breaking off like that, it's never a clean cut, and part of her wants to stay still.
It's not her fault she was dragged back in the movie, but after everything was all over, and Mal seemed to be glad to have her around, she is very tempted to stay, and possibly tempted to be honest with him. Or at least that's how I see the movie.
I agree with you and the ending of the movie made me hopeful for them as well. I think they both have been very immature with each other and it has caused a lot of unpleasantness and hurt feelings..not only between their characters but on this thread. haha
One of them needs to look the other in the eyes and say: "I love you." Hopefully then the other will say: "I love you too." Then Inara must tell Mal that she is dying and Mal needs to tell Inara: "I will be with you no matter what, to the bitter end." Then they kiss, the credits roll, end of the BDM2. :)
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...Mal clearly has feelings for Nandi, even while he is trying to express feelings for Inara, and he admits as much to her.
It's worse than I thought, because we all know it makes a gal feel special when a man expresses feelings for you AND your dead friend simultaneously. There's a certain profound authenticity in a sentiment like that, very believable.
No wonder Inara left…well that, and because even with all of Mal’s shortcomings she still loves him enough to spare him the pain and guilt of watching her die and not being able to save her. She sets him free, at your request, to fly the friendly skis of sexing women with Jayne, undeterred by space clap.
Cause that’s exactly what Mal is thinking while he’s lamenting over her vid in the BDM, Inara must know other Companions who I can bed…maybe she can hook me up, I’m feeling rather sentimental;)
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...It's worse than I thought, because we all know it makes a gal feel special when a man expresses feelings for you AND your dead friend simultaneously. There's a certain profound authenticity in a sentiment like that, very believable.
No wonder Inara left…well that, and because even with all of Mal’s shortcomings she still loves him enough to spare him the pain and guilt of watching her die and not being able to save her. She sets him free, at your request, to fly the friendly skis of sexing women with Jayne, undeterred by space clap.
Cause that’s exactly what Mal is thinking while he’s lamenting over her vid in the BDM, Inara must know other Companions who I can bed…maybe she can hook me up, I’m feeling rather sentimental;)
Well, such an ugly interpretation doesn't merit a response. Perhaps you simply haven't experienced enough of life and love to know that it can't be summed up by romantic greeting card notions. I hope you do. It might broaden your perspective and foster compassion for human beings and their frailties.
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I'm sure all the women you've ever known and had compassion for, love you as much as
much as you love yourself Toad, cause that’s what women really need, is to feel validated and loved from a sap like you.
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Hesitantly wading in:
I always thought Mal and Nandi were two peas out of the same pod, and there is mutual admiration and respect between them. Both have left their original homes for whatever reasons; both have created symbolic families with their respective crews/employees. There might be arguments within their "families", but god help anyone who tries to harm them or theirs. They are both stubborn and will stand their ground, even though a more prudent person might turn and run.
In addition, there is the added attraction for him that if they both survive the next day, she will make no claim on him or complicate his life any further (unless he wants her to).
I've heard those in the sex trade industry say that to some extent, clients are not paying for a night of companionship as much as they are paying for that companionship to go away the next morning. Now I don't think that Mal sees his night with Nandi payment for his services, as much as she is an equal that he can let his guard down with for one night who will make no further claims on him the next day. Not to mention that she talks like a woman and shoots like a man. If they manage to kill Royce, she's sure not going to want to go off with Mal. She's got her own life to lead.
For her part, he, in turn, can also let her guard down with Mal because he has lived through similar situations while staking out his own little corner of the universe. It doesn't hurt that he is an attractive, intelligent, considerate man, who has what appears to be a rare, fair feature in her part of the 'verse: he's actually in interested in her as a person and her life beyond her occupation, not to mention that he has values (relatively speaking – I’m holding up Royce and Jayne here for comparrision).
As for Inara’s tears, and I like Inara immensely, I think that she and he have become complacent in keeping up the “arm’s length” adagio the two of them are locked in. Let’s face it: the two of them are emotional cowards. It is much “safer” to keep up the push-pull, fight or flight bickering that they do than to risk real emotional passion and pain that they “might” feel if they ever give in to their attraction. I think her tears stem from the shock of seeing another woman be more adult about it and go in and take what she wants instead of worrying about (maybe) getting hurt. Hell. Everyone could be dead in a couple of hours anyway.
Thus end my musings for the evening. Your mileage may vary.
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Originally posted by greenka61:
Hesitantly wading in:...
Oh my God! I agree with everything you just said!
And you said it so well too!
Thank you
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Actually agree with what you said too, greenka61, as far as everyone’s behavior at HoG.
But there are consequences for TAKING what you want, as Mal realizes when he is regretful at the end, wishing he had never met Nandi. We know Inara has her reasons for not TAKING what she wants, she's dying, by keeping Mal at arm's length, she's thinking of him and not herself.
It's called self sacrifice, there’s no emotional cowardness in that.
Because, Inara's NOT a taker, she's a giver.
You’re right, Mal and Nandi both took what they wanted, Inara doesn’t measure up when it comes to finding ways to get what she wants, whether or not this is a weakness or strength is how one interprets human behavior.
Looking at the ending though, it’s Inara who stands tall and strong, musing on what she learned from her experience and finally making her decision to walk alone and let Mal fly free. Mal’s hope is crushed; he did the taking, and the living and the losing. Hopefully he learned something from the HoG, also.
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