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Keith Olbermann

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Monday, February 15, 2010 12:15 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
You mean, the most trusted news on t..v ? Is that what it is ?



You're willing to admit, though, that "most trusted" does not necessarily equal "trustworthy", though, right? Nor does it mean "fair and balanced" or "without an ulterior agenda".

Not to imply anything about any other network and their quality or lack thereof, but that simple fact is something you can accept, right?

Because you keep using that "trusted" statement as an argument.

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Monday, February 15, 2010 1:12 PM

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Oh, FOX should be more like Dan Rather's " fake, but accurate" cBS ?



Well, they've already got the "fake" part down pat. Now if they could only add in a little accuracy...

But Rappy will continue to trust them completely because they told him they're the most trusted.

Mike

Work is the curse of the Drinking Class.
- Oscar Wilde

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Monday, February 15, 2010 3:13 PM

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Originally posted by Niki2:

Well, Mal,
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I bet some folks will make an argument that isn't far from that in substance...

You nailed it pretty close, didn't you? Some things/people are just too boringly predictable.



Yep. I think it's a cry for attention thing. This place was hard to take a few years ago - every thread became centered on those same few people -"infants" you say. Fitting. I'm with you: ignore and wait for the beta site where the ignore becomes automatic.

Um... unless antimason takes up evolution again - that I won't ignore! He's run from me twice on that topic, and I'm just waiting for him to bring the same crap up yet again...

That's beautiful and very sad what you say about the medical clinics. Our health care is unbelievable. There was a time when I could call up my local doc to numb a finger and give me a few stitches when I cut myself. Now? Forget it. Three hours in a waiting room and several hundred dollars. What the hell? The middle men own the medical industry and they've made it damned near useless.

KO had it right - what we need is those little clinics. All over the place. Even pay as you go - straight from the patient to the doctor. I bet we'd pay less and they'd make more.


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Monday, February 15, 2010 5:52 PM

You notice, Agent, that there's no response to your question about "most trusted" and "trustworthy". Won't be, either, betcha.

As for Olberman v. Beck, Olbermann wouldn't last one round; he may be pompous, but he can't even COMPETE with Beck for insanity! The only decent competition Beck has is on his own network; and while I think he's actually crazy, I have a suspicion people like Limbagh LOOK crazy but aren't really. Now Michelle Malkin...that's another story; SHE could go toe-to-toe with Beck and it would be a tossup. Then there's Sarah Palin...tho' there's a big difference between "crazy" and "just plain stupid".

O'Reilly freely admits what he does is for ratings and he doesn't even believe some of what he says, calling himself an "entertainer"--I heard him!

It's pretty obvious who watches FauxNews exclusively; most likely the only clips they show are the extremes and edited to make others look crazier than themselves.


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Monday, February 15, 2010 6:00 PM

Well, Mal, I agree with the rest, but not the little clinics. The National Association of Free Clinics (NAFC - http://www.freeclinics.us/) hosts exactly those little clinics all over America...try using any search site that finishes the search for you and type in "free clinics" and it'll finish it with "in ___" and you'll see. ?They hosted the recent big ones, and spoke quite clearly that their free clinics around the country can't begin to handle the demand.

It's not nearly enough, and it requires a lot of volunteers, doctors giving their time, etc. Small for-pay clinics don't survive, and are forced to be expensive. There are little ones all over, we've had to use them a couple of times before we could get Jo on MediCal; they're virtually straight patient-to-doctor, but they're too expensive for most people.

We need single-payer, or at least a public option, but we won't get it any time soon, if ever.

Funny you should mentione

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wait for the beta site where the ignore becomes automatic.
Last night I had a dream; I came here and the forums looked all different; they were under headings, and both "Talk Story" and "RWED" were under a heading, something like "Other" or "Real World" or something, and my first thought was "Oh, BOY, the new software is up, now I can use "ignore"! Tough to wake up and find it was a dream.


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Monday, February 15, 2010 6:57 PM

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Originally posted by AgentRouka:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
You mean, the most trusted news on t..v ? Is that what it is ?



You're willing to admit, though, that "most trusted" does not necessarily equal "trustworthy", though, right? Nor does it mean "fair and balanced" or "without an ulterior agenda".

Not to imply anything about any other network and their quality or lack thereof, but that simple fact is something you can accept, right?

Because you keep using that "trusted" statement as an argument.



Well, the 'trusted' statement wasn't mine, it came from the poll. As well as most DIStrusted. That honor went to NBC ( coupled w/ MSNBC )

To claim FOX has a bias, w/ out also stating that the MSM has its own, left leaning agenda, is laughable. FOX is the response to the Left leaning media.

Some of the dimmer bulbs on this forum might expect me to fall in line, Goose stepping, if you will, w/ the "FOX NEWS IS THE GREATEST IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND!!"... mantra.

feh.

I rarely even watch it. I could do w/ out MOST of the 'infotainment' shows, which I feel most confuse with the straight news portion of the channel. Chris Wallace, Brit Hume and some of their reporters are about solid professionals as you'll ever find - ANYWHERE.



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Monday, February 15, 2010 7:26 PM



Keith Olbermann blames Bush, Cheney for 9/11 attacks
http://www.infowars.com/keith-olbermann-blames-bush-cheney-for-911-att
acks
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A second Texas Governor candidate also ‘not sure’ on 9/11
http://www.infowars.com/texas-democratic-candidate-farouk-shami-also-n
ot-sure-on-911
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Monday, February 15, 2010 8:05 PM

A) If you "I rarely even watch it", how do you know it's so great that you're willing to defend it and compare it to others?

B) Who was it said they watched FauxNews all day? I thought that was you, but I could be wrong.

Nonetheless, I find your steadfast defense of it most interesting if you rarely watch it. From where do you get your opinion, then?

And I've got news for you; I don't think anyone here expected you to goose-step; I think the most hoped for was that you would admit it's not quite as great--or honest!--as what you've been propounding.

I repeat: ClusterFox regularly lies outright, overtly engages in out-and-out fraud, makes insane, statements which in some cases they have called treasonous when OTHERS made them of Dumbya, and can't compare to any other station when it comes to backing up their statements with FACT. Regardless of slant on any other network, those are facts.

How about a couple of examples: Like them using video from a 2008 rally and calling it "just in" in 2009?



This one on "plagerism" isn't even subtle:



Or the famous fake numbers at that Sept. 12 rally:



Hell, Hannity even APOLOGIZED for it: "it was an inadvertent mistake, but a mistake nonetheless"...how do you "mistake" editing two different rallies together? Come ON!

How about editing something that's a joke to make it look real and say they "can't believe it!"



You can find tons of this stuff if you look; MSNBC looks, that's how I've seen it. Yeah, they're slanted, but show me one instance of them pulling shit this blatant...

FoxNoise said it was "supporting the terrorists" to diss Dumbya, then called Obama a terrorist; they did the same about wish death to Dumbya, then wished death to Obama.

It just goes on and on. There are articles, video clips, tons of stuff out there. FauxNews isn't just slanted, it's fraudulent over and over again. Why so much energy on this? Because they truly make me sick, only because their audience never hears the TRUTH!


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Monday, February 15, 2010 8:10 PM

PN, you just pulled a "Fox". The article clearly states:

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His conclusion: For their lack of vigilance and because they “did not prioritize,” President George W. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney are to be faulted for the attacks.[the "conclusion" is erroneous; he didn't "fault", i.e., blame, them for the attacks, he said they INVITED it by negligence)

Provoked by former Bush and Rumsfeld speechwriter Marc Thiessen’s allegation that President Obama is “inviting” another attack, Olbermann noted that when President Bush was warned by the CIA that terrorists were targeting the United States and may be planning to use airliners, Bush replied, “All right, you’ve covered your ass now” and proceeded to do nothing about it.

“Why is it OK in polite company to say Mr. Obama is inviting attack, but you still can`t say that Mr. Bush not only invited attack but he sent the night watchman home?” Olbermann asked.

Where exactly is the lie?? We know full well now that there were plenty of warnings Dumbya chose to ignore, so how can anyone say Obama "invited" attack (because of what they themselves believe about his policies) when Dumbya DID leave us open to attack? Where's the lie? Slanted in some respects, I might give you, by pointing out the hypocrisy, but no out-and-out lie, no deliberate fraud; an opinion. Try again.


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Monday, February 15, 2010 9:13 PM

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Originally posted by Niki2:

Where exactly is the lie?? We know full well now that there were plenty of warnings Dumbya chose to ignore, so how can anyone say Obama "invited" attack (because of what they themselves believe about his policies) when Dumbya DID leave us open to attack? Where's the lie? Slanted in some respects, I might give you, by pointing out the hypocrisy, but no out-and-out lie, no deliberate fraud; an opinion. Try again.



Olbermann's entire argument is false, since no facts support it. 9/11 was an Inside Job by Bush, Cheney, Rummy, CIA, Pentagon, Ghouliani, Mossad and MI6, as confessed in writing by the Pentagon and NSA in Operation Northwoods. But Olbermann accusing Bush of causing 9/11 is 100% accurate.

President Carter and jew Zbigniew Brezinski founded "Al Qaeda" (CIA employee database), which was used by Reagan/Bush Sr to attack the Commies, used by Billary Clinton to bomb Yugoslavia. Jr Bush falsely blamed Al Qeada for 9/11, and when CIA/MI6 employee Bin Laden publicly denied guilt, he was immediately assassinated in Dec 2001.

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Obama's Jewish Polish advisor Zbigniew Brezinski founded AllCIAduh, hanging out with USAma Bin Laden in Pakistan (Village Voice 1981 when CIA agent Barack Hussein Obama Soetoro was illegally in Pakistan)

"Regret what? That secret operation (the CIA backing of Islamic Fundamentalist Terrorists) was an excellent idea. It had the effect of drawing the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want me to regret it? What is most important to the history of the world? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-up Moslems or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war?"
-Zbigniew Brzezinski, Le Nouvel Observateur, Jan, 1998

"I've learned an immense amount from Dr. Brzezinski."
-Hussein Obama, 12 Sept 2007
youtube.com/watch?v=ASlETEx0T-I

"I endorsed Obama."
-Zbigniew Brzezinski, MSNBC
youtube.com/watch?v=NCO7Pr7RJ7s


Dictator Hussein Obama was in Pakistan with Bin Laden in the 1980s (the crime of treason), when he got a fake degree from Columbia University as his cover in CIA.

Hussein Obama is facing assassination by the kosher NeoCons if he fails to invade Iran, via false-flag MKULTRA patsy, either with Obama's murder (like JFK), wounding (like Bush cousin John Hinkley shot Reagan) or no injury (like Manson family almost shot "Gerald Ford", born Leslie Lynch King Jr). JFK's Presidential Assassination Program to kill Castro in Operation Northwoods/Mongoose was reversed to kill JFK.

Likewise, Obama's Presidential Assassination Program to kill US citizens without arrest nor trial can likewise be used to kill Obama via Inside Job, then blame the 9/11 Truthers, Constitutionalists, Libertarians, Christians and patriots.

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