Supreme Court ruling on money and free speech

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UPDATED: Wednesday, March 25, 2026 22:50
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Again:

I have no intention of destroying the governments tyranny to only have it replaced by a corporate one.

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Nice call Jong, I've been pushing this vid out to everyone I know for the last few weeks.. (I think I even posted it here, earlier.)

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Apologies then for that. I had not seen it here before.

But I DO have problems with it :

It's threatening
It's generally un-fair
It's purely ideological
It's mean-spirited
It's balls-out negative and meaningless
It's un-American
It helps no one.
It offers nothing.
It will ignite the other side to escalate the rancor which hurts everyone
It's juvenile

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There are actually 2 videos.

1 for the Democrats.

1 for the Republicans.

http://www.lonelyconservative.com/2010/01/17/america-rising-2-a-letter
-to-the-republican-party/

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Originally posted by Geezer:
Until you can make fundamental changes in human nature, you're stuck with it, though you bring all the corporations down.

That being said, doing something about Corporate "personhood" does seem a good idea.

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Thing is, it ain't our nature - it's actually against our nature and trained into us by social engineering, and I consider those conflicting messages to be a great part of the source of much aberrant childhood behaviors.

That said, we're workin on that problem, and have been for quite a well.

And yes, corporate personhood is a seriously suck idea, look into it and you'll see.

-Frem

PS: Siggy ? you'd actually LIKE Wall-E, I think, not only is it beautifully animated (the space dance scene is phenomental) but I found it a little inspiring, and I think you would also, so take it as a personal reccommendation, which coming from ME in regard to a hollywood product is pretty high praise.

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Thing is, it ain't our nature - it's actually against our nature and trained into us by social engineering...

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Not so sure I go along with that. Throughout history there have been lots of folks who, in big ways or small, wanted to get ahead. Some of them always were willing to sacrifice the other guy's welfare for their own. I find it hard to believe that it's a new thing. Neither did Kipling.

A General Summary

We are very slightly changed
From the semi-apes who ranged
India's Prehistoric clay;
He that drew the longest bow
Ran his brother down, you know,
As we run men down to-day.

"Dowb," the first of all his race,
Met the Mammoth face to face
On the lake or in the cave:
Stole the steadiest canoe,
Ate the quarry others slew,
Died -- and took the finest grave.

When they scratched the reindeer-bone,
Some one made the sketch his own,
Filched it from the artist -- then,
Even in those early days,
Won a simple Viceroy's praise
Through the toil of other men.
Ere they hewed the Sphinx's visage
Favouritism governed kissage,
Even as it does in this age.

Who shall doubt "the secret hid
Under Cheops' pyramid"
Was that the contractor did
Cheops out of several millions?
Or that Joseph's sudden rise
To comptroller of Supplies
Was a fraud of monstrous size
On King Pharaoh's swart Civilians?

Thus, the artless songs I sing
Do not deal with anything
New or never said before.
As it was in the beginning
Is to-day official sinning,
And shall be for evermore!




"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Sorry Mike:

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But we might be the first people HERE to come up with all this and put it in one handy place. But if you're against doing that, we can leave it to everyone else to figure out on their own. That's certainly gotten us this far, after all...

Heck, I s'pose PN might as well just take over and clutter up every post, since there are no original ideas anymore!

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After yesterday, I’m pretty cynical and dispirited. . .

Byte:

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sometimes I think the news they show is more real than the ACTUAL news, and they're an actual platform for important people to speak.

Truth in humour.

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It’s always been that way, hasn’t it? Humorists can say truths politicians would never dare speak. Remember Mark Twain. . . sometimes humorists can be the spark that sets thing in motion, or maybe galvanizes people to THINK.

Mike, Harry Reid is a “quisling, a milquetoast, a do-nothing”? You mean a Democrat? Wasn’t there an old saying, something about Democrats “snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory”? Seems to me there was . . .

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the best person I've seen at digging down and finding who's REALLY behind this crap is Rachel Maddow. And even though she's trying to put it in Cap'n Dummy talk, it's still hard to follow sometimes, because it's so convoluted.

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Me, too. I try hard to follow It. . . not that it does me any good, just because I want to KNOW and she seems about the only one who’ll do the digging for me.

Geezer,

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the members of the Co-ops wouldn't want greater profitability, higher dividends to the members, and higher value for the Co-op?

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that hasn’t been my experience or observation. The co-ops I’ve known are more interested in working together, not having a hierarchy, and the employees are treated better because THEY are owners. If they get things cheaper, isn’t it the corporations who make the things cheaper by overseas labor, low wages, etc? There isn’t any actual monetary profit in the co-ops I’ve known. . . but then, those have been food co-ops, so I may be wrong. Does anyone else know more about this who can shed some light on the question?

Wulf, in my opinion people are too apathetic and ignorant, for the most part, to pay attention to the small print at the bottom telling who funded the ad. I’ve always looked, and it’s usually pretty easy to see who’s sponsoring it and what their agenda is, like “paid for by Exxon” is a dead giveaway. The kind of trickery Maddow exposes makes that more difficult, and I don’t know that the corporations might not do exactly the same thing. . . ?

I agree with JS about the ad, I found it over-dramatic and offensive, myself. That’s just me.

Okay, I gotta ad this poem. It’s a tribute by Lord Byron to his dog Boatswain, and inscribed on his grave. Perhaps it’s anthropomorphic, I can’t say, but it kinda nails the two species to me, and explains in part why I prefer the company of my dogs to that of most people:

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Near this spot
Are deposited the Remains
Of one
Who possessed Beauty
Without Vanity,
Strength without Insolence,
Courage without Ferocity,
And all the Virtues of Man
Without his Vices.

The Price, which would be unmeaning flattery
If inscribed over Human Ashes,
Is but a just tribute to the Memory of
“Boatswain” a Dog
Who was born at Newfoundland,
May, 1803,
And died in Newstead Abbey,
Nov. 18, 1808.

When some proud son of man returns to earth,
Unknown by glory, but upheld by birth,
The sculptor’s art exhausts the pomp of woe,
And stories urns record that rests below.
When all is done, upon the tomb is seen,
Not what he was, but what he should have been.
But the poor dog, in life the firmest friend,
The first to welcome, foremost to defend,
Whose honest heart is still his master’s own,
Who labors, fights, lives, breathes for him alone,
Unhonored falls, unnoticed all his worth,
Denied in heaven the soul he held on earth –
While man, vain insect! Hopes to be forgiven,
And claims himself a sole exclusive heaven.

Oh m

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