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Supreme Court ruling on money and free speech

POSTED BY: HKCavalier
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RUE

Wednesday, January 27, 2010 1:07 AM

BTW - I like this.

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HKCAVALIER

Wednesday, January 27, 2010 1:43 AM

Well that, of course, speaks to this whole madness that corporations are "persons." Well, if they're persons, are they U.S. citizens??? That would seem to be of significant importance to some when it comes to represative government. It would be hilarious if corporations had to prove citizenship to contribute.

HKCavalier

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KWICKO

Wednesday, January 27, 2010 1:45 AM

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Originally posted by HKCavalier:
Well that, of course, speaks to this whole madness that corporations are "persons." Well, if they're persons, are they U.S. citizens??? That would seem to be of significant importance to some when it comes to represative government. It would be hilarious if corporations had to prove citizenship to contribute.

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

Now you see where I'm going with this... :)

Mike

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- Oscar Wilde

SIGNYM

Wednesday, January 27, 2010 2:09 PM

Mike, that's a brilliant idea.

KWICKO

Wednesday, January 27, 2010 2:44 PM

I'm sure someone will find problems with it, or shoot it full of holes.

Thing is, it came about from thinking on John Yoo and "The Torture Memos"; the Bush Administration took the position that ONLY American citizens are really entitled to due process and human rights, and everybody else in the world can go suck eggs.

So, by logical extension of that logic, by saying, "Okay, if that's the game you want to play, and the door you want to open, let's walk ALL THE WAY through it," we get here. But keep going; it gets better. I can't say more; it would be telling... ;)

Mike

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- Oscar Wilde

JAYNEZTOWN

Wednesday, January 27, 2010 3:04 PM

Ok Who changed the thread title

' Frak these Corporate Frakkers because after 6 years of watching BSG, Craprica and smoking chamalla Moore's liberalism has infected my brain'

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BTW - it seems to me if we can sift through thousands of people to come up with one winner on American Idol, we can sift through thousands of candidates to come up with the top twenty or so who will actually run on competing platforms.

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what a fine idea

BYTEMITE

Wednesday, January 27, 2010 3:11 PM

That's pretty useful... But even WITH added taxes, Corporations are still going to have plenty of money to throw at politicians. And I'm not even sure that saying "You're not headquartered in America, so you're not American, so free speech doesn't apply" will stop media outlets from accepting money to show whatever commercials foreign business wants. Because American media outlets are just as global, just as corporate.

The only way to stop it is if corporatism collapses completely. Or at least that's the only way I can see.

PIZMOBEACH

Wednesday, January 27, 2010 3:16 PM

It's a good idea Mike, don't want to diminish it, but it seems after the fact. I'm sure we'd all agree that reversing this opinion is the preferred, best option. And I have finally heard someone (Obermann?) make mention of that little International influence DETAIL.
The notion that this is Free Speech is ludicrous, what a slap in our faces, total disrespect for us as citizens and thinking people to support this with a straight face. Does my nephew's Boy Scout troop get to express their Free Speech then? Or is it only because of the Corps are People cludge that makes it possible? Why even argue legalities when they can make up whatever they want? If a Corp is a Person, can we draft them and send them to Afghanistan?

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BYTEMITE

Wednesday, January 27, 2010 3:48 PM

YOU changed the thread title, JaynezTown, and it was pretty obvious for anyone who knows how to look. Especially because I saw your post before it was edited.

Do tell us how everyone's right to swing their arm does NOT in fact end at anyone's nose, as you have so aptly demonstrated.

RUE

Wednesday, January 27, 2010 4:32 PM

"I'm sure we'd all agree that reversing this opinion is the preferred, best option."

Reversing opinions is hardly ever done. It took over a century to reverse the 'slave as property needs to be returned to lawful owner' decision.

Oh, and will we EVER get a reversal of that illegal ruling by the Supremes that gave Bush his first term ?

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