Japanese Whalers.....
POSTED BY: Calhoun
UPDATED: Friday, June 12, 2026 18:00
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
To which, being in any kind of agreement with this prick, makes me kinda queasy, don't ya know...
An open mind...
The truth makes you sick? Kinda tells us where your coming from...
H
"Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009.
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
YOU have advocated torture for people who are darker skinned and pray to a different deity.
I don't care who they pray to or what there skin color is. I advocate aggressive interrogation of terrorists without regard to race, creed, color, God, or favorite TV show.
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YOU have played cheerleader when a doctor who had committed no crime (never charged, never convicted) was murdered in cold blood while attending his church.
Your confusing me with someone else. I'll cheer his execution, like I would any murder. I'm pro life, doesn't mean I wouldn't hang any John Brown's out there.
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YOU advocate "pre-emptive war" at every opportunity, preferring to invade someone just because you think they MAY become a threat someday in the future.
That is not the Bush doctrine. I support a pre-emptive war doctrine. Attacking someone who is going to attack you makes sense in some circumstances. Its a fair fight if both sides draw, but if I'm faster and get my shot off first...
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So it's obviously YOU who have no interest in the rule of law, and no faith in the court system you work for.
Like Mr. Adams said, I am for the law and there is no other side. Just this morning I berated another prosecutor for charging someone with a crime that he knew had an alibi (he was in court with another Prosecutor). Last week I sent a man to jail after a Jury trial, and I asked for a longer sentence because he wasted our time. It was wrong and I told them so.
My job is to represent the State, if I don't honostly believe a person is guilty, that case will NOT go to trial because the State is best served when the innocent go free and the guilty go to jail, it is also well served when a person who may be guilty goes free because there is not enough evidence (this is the presumption of innocence folks around here don't seem to believe in). I see my own judgement as the first check in that process (followed by the Judge and Jury).
In this case the law says they can go hunt whales. The law says the protestors can tag along and yell at them. The law does not allow dangerous approaches and attempts to damage or delay the whalers.
H
"Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009.
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Quote:The law used to say you could rape your slaves too. In a former life you prosecuted a young white man for beating the shit out of a massa for behaving legally, remember?
Originally posted by Hero:
In this case the law says they can go hunt whales. The law says the protestors can tag along and yell at them. The law does not allow dangerous approaches and attempts to damage or delay the whalers.
Go be Elliot Ness when it comes to speeding tickets, but when peeps hose an already disabled & possibly sinking boat in freezing waters, that's attempted MURDER in my book. Even in existing law, you can't KILL someone for merely being an asshole.
Or do I misunderstand here? Can you pre-emptively kill someone you BELIEVE will be an asshole, MORE than he already is, and will possibly at some later date pose a threat to your property?
The laughing Chrisisall
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Chris, don't you realize by now that "Hero" works for the Pre-Crime Prevention Unit? He knows what people are going to do before they do it, just like Bush knew that Iraq was an "imminent threat" even though they had no WMD, didn't consort with terrorists, and had no plans to attack America or Americans.
And of course, just like Giuliani, "Hero" knows that we were never attacked while Bush was in office. ;)
Mike
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Wow. Hero, are you out of your depth, or making arguments for the fun of stirring people up? Because those you offer are so far "out there" that it's hard to even make SENSE of them!Quote:
To begin with, what has that got to do with ANYTHING in this thread? Given most people here have agreed that both parties were in the wrong, and that if there were laws and courts regarding the open oceans, there would be reason to bring BOTH up on charges.
Are you and the liberals on this board advocating we eliminate the Courts in all situations or just the ones involving folks and practices you don't approve of?
And where the hell did the "liberal" come from? Are you one of "those" who happily lumps people into two categories, and then runs with it? That's pathetic. Also doesn't address, again, that anyone wants to eliminate courts; what's been said was just the opposite.Quote:
That's just sad, and typical of the pro-life crowd. And yes, I'll lump them because of their behavior--not to mention you admitted being one yourself. The feeling obviously by you anti-choicers is that life is sacred, until it comes out of the womb. I find that reprehensible, and completely devoid of logic.
I'll cheer his execution, like I would any murder. I'm pro life, doesn't mean I wouldn't hang any John Brown's out there.Quote:
No, you're obviously not. Anyone who "cheers" murder, however it's done, can say that.
I am for the law and there is no other sideQuote:
I must have that wrong, then. I thought a prosecutor's job was to represent the VICTIMS of crimes...so I guess from what you say, those don't come into it at all.
My job is to represent the StateQuote:
Please provide maritime law cites so we can determine this accurately. Because I don't believe you're right, I think there IS no specific law not allowing attempts to damage or delay the whalers. If there were such laws, the whalers AND the protesters would be brought up on charges.
The law does not allow dangerous approaches and attempts to damage or delay the whalers
I, along with virtually everyone here, feel that both sides are in the wrong, period. That you advocate one side only shows your bias.
It's pretty clear from your "signature" that you feel inferior and need to grasp at anyone's approval you can to shore up your self-image. That pretty much says it all.
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Quote:A couple of times I tried to celebrate his (temporary) letting go of the Dark Side, and he never lets me forget it.
Originally posted by Niki2:
It's pretty clear from your "signature" that you feel inferior and need to grasp at anyone's approval you can to shore up your self-image. That pretty much says it all.
The laughing Chrisisall
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
The law used to say you could rape your slaves too. In a former life you prosecuted a young white man for beating the shit out of a massa for behaving legally, remember?
I was born in the anti-slavery part of West Virginia and I live and work in NorthEast Ohio, I sincerely doubt any past life involved American slavery. I note for the record that I have my Great (Great) Grandfather's Discharge Medal from a West Virginia Union Cavalry regiment.
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Go be Elliot Ness when it comes to speeding tickets, but when peeps hose an already disabled & possibly sinking boat in freezing waters, that's attempted MURDER in my book.Or do I misunderstand here?
Since the Protest boat was breaking the law and endangering both craft, any death's would have been on the protest boat Captain and crew and possibly the head of the protest group. Its the Felony Murder Rule, if a person dies during the commission of a Felony, then the suspect can be tried for murder.
You make it sound like they rammed the boat, turned around passed it again to spray more water on the boat. The video shows the boat approaching the ship, the ship had its automatic sprayers on. The boat is sprayed by the bow sprayers as they pass by, the boat is struck, the aft sprayers hit it as the ship continues on, this is all over the course of seconds, not minutes. AND the boat had already been sprayed during other close approaches. Those water cannons don't shoot far...its extremely close range.
As for the sinking boat, its was sinking so fast another video shows the boat still afloat and under observation by the whaler long after the crew had been rescued by Bob Barker and they had already cleared the area.
H
"Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009.
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Originally posted by Niki2:
I must have that wrong, then. I thought a prosecutor's job was to represent the VICTIMS of crimes...so I guess from what you say, those don't come into it at all.
You are wrong on both accounts. I represent the State of Ohio and the people of my City. The victim AND the Defendant are my responsibility, not to mention society at large.
H
"Hero. I have come to respect you." "I am forced to agree with Hero here."- Chrisisall, 2009.
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Quote:Reincarnation has less to do with place than time, doofus. Your facts are not applicable to my anecdote.
Originally posted by Hero:
I was born in the anti-slavery part of West Virginia and I live and work in NorthEast Ohio, I sincerely doubt any past life involved American slavery.
Quote:To use your own argument, the protest group did nothing illegal until a Judge & jury says they did.
Since the Protest boat was breaking the law and endangering both craft, any death's would have been on the protest boat Captain and crew and possibly the head of the protest group.
Quote:Nice automatic sprayers... pretty hi-tech, they're able to accurately target a boat while moving.
The video shows the boat approaching the ship, the ship had its automatic sprayers on.
Or, are they MANNED, you idiot? Busted again, say anything to support your position, no matter if it's true or not.
The laughing Chrisisall
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So with no law enforcement anywhere nearby
who is the body that would investigate this?
Either you Are with the terrorists, or ... you Are with the terrorists 
Life is like a jar of Jalapeño peppers.
What you do today, might Burn Your Ass Tomorrow"
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