Life found on Moon.
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UPDATED: Friday, August 16, 2024 15:24
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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/14/science/14moon.html
I know PN doesn't think space travel of colonization is possible, but I for one am celebrating.
*dance*
*poorly*
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There are still folk in this world who insist that
' man will never fly ', too...
Hasn't stopped us doing the impossible , so far .
More about lunar water :
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2009/13nov_lcrossresults.htm?list15
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Enhanced video shows LCROSS impact plume:
Quote:
Oct 13, 1999: The controlled crash of NASA's Lunar Prospector spacecraft into a crater near the south pole of the Moon on July 31 produced no observable signature of water, according to scientists digging through data from Earth- based observatories and spacecraft such as the Hubble Space Telescope.
http://science.nasa.gov/newhome/headlines/ast13oct99_1.htm
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Hello,
Piratenews thinks it's very important to make sure all of his science and technology information is at least 10 years out of date.
That's why he surfs the web on a highly advanced 486 DX computer running with 16MB memory at 66MHZ speed. His operating system is Windows 98SE, and he enjoys his Internet Explorer 5 browser while reading news stories from 1999.
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
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That's just moon pee- the waste dump from orbiting Apollo crafts left to bigin this newest fake-out.
The laughing Chrisisall
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Wait, Anthony, I'm not sure that's what PN's point is.
He might be saying that he thinks the results that NASA announces may have politics at work behind them. I seem to recall for the Bush years that the policy was to have no interest in colonizing the moon or Mars. This is 1999, the year before Bush came into office... What was Clinton's stance?
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Hello,
I believe Piratenews' official stance is this:
I will fail to assimilate any new information that contradicts my old beliefs.
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
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Sorry, mind the personal attacks. Pirate News performs an important function in the matter of space travel: Skepticism.
Every scientist knows the value of doubt.
If we don't view everything under a microscope, we can be led to any conclusion that our leaders or military want us to believe.
More interestingly, what does this water on the moon say?
Relating back to the heliosphere, if it does turn out that the water exists only on the dark side and at the poles, it would strengthen the idea that hydrogen might be native to the moon, rather than Earth.
While I like my pet theory of the Earth as ring 5, and the moon as ring three, which is supported by chemical distribution and "Snowball Earth," I can see the gravitational logic of Moon as ring five and Earth as ring three.
If the earth robbed the moon of hydrogen, that would lean further towards the latter.
The generally accepted theory that both the earth and the moon are native to ring three and ring five vaporized into thin space is patently absurd, and defies laws of physics all over the place. I have to say I am perpetually perplexed by the degree to which accepted science defies accepted laws of physics with astounding regularity.
Still, the moon as 5 and earth as 3 also fits the curve of ring masses, though caculating ring masses would be a major asset to find the answer to this.
These are enlightening discoveries at any rate. I would shed a little doubt on one aspect here:
Moon capture at 3.3bya is not necessarily accurate. The different age of the surfaces 3.3 and 4.5 is possibly due to plate tectonics, not a cataclysmic event. If the event did not occur at 3.3, then it almost certainly happened earlier, since the event would likely liquify much of the surface of both bodies.
Tectonics are also probably the reason for the strange surface irregularities of Mars and Venus. We tend to forget that the Earth also has multiple-mile high cliffs all over the place, because we view water as surface. We should view it as atmosphere, as it is a liquid compound of two gases. Viewed that way, the earth's atmosphere is 99% water.
The illogic of this result is that there would be precious little hydrogen in ring 3 due to the formation of the sun, which drew almost all the hyrdogen from the first four bands. 5 Remaning bands would be hydrogen-rich.
Another slight snag, the question of whether or not the moon would have held the hydrogen long enough to transform it into surface ice at position 5, I suppose could be answered by the moons of Jupiter.
The answer to this is a decided "Yes" as a quick wiki check returns:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europa_%28moon%29
The Europa is a perfect model for Luna as a position 5 planet.
A cosmological chronology might look something like this:
Luna, struck by a commet or meteor at high speed would create the bullet-waterballon effect, leaving the asteroid belt, and altering the orbit of Luna and some asteroids into a highly eliptical position 5, replacing it more stable 5.
This orbit would cross that of an earth 3, and the occassional cross would cause an eventual capture, causing a slightly eliptical shift of Terra 3.
Liquification of the surfaces of both would be a logical consequence, so the date of the event might be placed at 3.8, depending on how long it travel, capture, and solidification. Luna's now liquid water would be stolen by the earth much the way Jupiter robs IO at a similar distance.
As Luna slowed in plate tectonics, it developed a lopsided nature due to the enormous tidal pull of Terra, causing the libration synchronous orbit of the moon.
Footnote on capture satellite theory: The smoking gun on this one is this: The moon orbits the ecliptic, not the earths own axis. Outside of an outstanding coincidence, there's only one way for this to happen: IF the moon was created in a planetary position from an independent band of Bode's law from the initial solar disk, and NOT as a member of the same ring as the earth. If the latter were the case, the moon would most likel
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Ooh! Now Ring 5 Moon and Ring 3 Earth is one I can get behind! The Moon used to be a lot closer to the Earth, and with the greater gravity, I can imagine a hydrogen steal. Plus, I'm much better able to imagine the Earth's gravity catching the Moon than I am able to imagine the Moon catching the Earth. You'd have a smaller range to catch...
Plus, I still just like snowball earth as having a biological cause. Just makes sense to me, if soil and what little atmospheric carbon there was has now been taken up into carbon-based organisms. After all, there's been MULTIPLE snowball Earths.
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"Sorry, mind the personal attacks. Pirate News performs an important function in the matter of space travel: Skepticism."
Hello,
I do mind the personal attacks. The Death to Obama Supporters, The anti-Jew stance. The racism on every level.
On the issue of Skepticism, I appreciate valid skepticism as a tool to science and discovery. I appreciate people who calmly and logically question the data presented to them. People who analyze it for quality of content.
People who are not pushing an adamant agenda against the Lizard people living in the catacombs of their fractured minds.
On the issue of spectrographic analysis of lunar water, two primary questions occur to me.
1) Does the data indicate a positive result for the presence of water?
2) Are there any substances capable of delivering a false positive under the circumstances of the experiment?
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
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