WTF??? A shoot-out at Fort Hood???
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Thursday, May 15, 2025 14:56
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Hell, growing up in a military family, growing up on and around military bases, I never thought it unusual to see folks with weapons just about everywhere. News is acting like an armed man on a military base would really get noticed, or set off alarms, and that's not the way I remember it at all.
Mike
Let the wild rumpus start!
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www.nytimes.com/2009/11/06/us/06forthood.html?_r=1
www.infowars.com/12-dead-31-wounded-in-base-shootings/
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An Army psychiatrist about to be deployed to combat zones overseas killed 11 soldiers and wounded 31 others on Thursday afternoon at Fort Hood in Texas, the authorities said. The gunman, who was identified as Major Nidal Malik Hasan, was then killed by police forces.
Mr. Hasan, 39, who had been promoted in May and previously worked at Walter Reed Army Medical Center, was about to be deployed to Iraq, according to Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison. Her spokesman, Jeff Sadoski, said Major Hasan was upset about his pending deployment.
“There were several eyewitness accounts that there was more than one shooter,” said Lt. Gen. Robert W. Cone, the commanding officer at Fort Hood.
Two other soldiers were initially taken into custody, but were later released, Christopher Haug, a base spokesman, told CNN. Mr. Haug said that another soldier has since been detained.
False flag MKULTRA psyop by CIA/DIA/FBI shooters with immunity, just like Columbine? Standard Training Op?
http://judicial-inc.biz/columbine_killers.htm
All charges dropped against copkillers despite video confession the day of the murder, and recovery of the murder gun, as "informant" drug-dealers for sheriff and CIA/DEA with a prior murder conviction.
http://piratenews.org/copkillers.html
Ft Hood, those nice folks who massacred 80 Christians and little kids at church in Waco TX.
Military bases are the most UNdefended targets I've ever seen. In USA and Europe, most bases, even nuke bases, are wide open to the public, without any security checkpoints, even flight lines. Less than 1% of soldiers are armed, and they are trained to NEVER shoot an officer, and only kiss their boots instead.
Compare that to the US Revolutionary War, where all soldiers (private militia) were REQUIRED to shoot at the feet of ALL officers, on crowded public streets, as a form of salute...
Ah, the Good Ole Days.
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Well, most of the bases I've been on, outside of the firing range or actual field exercises - you could go a whole career and never touch a weapon, and beyond the firing range no one has any live ammo neither.
This actually presented a substantial problem in the unit I was with because when the only weapon training whatsoever is 30 rounds at the range PER YEAR, skills in that respect tend to be lacking - I wouldn't trust most non-infantry soldiers to know which end the bang comes out of, myself.
Of course, given our quagmire and the tremendous amount of remedial training that was required for deployments, that's prolly not as bad as it was.
A situation like this, it'd take anywhere from 10-40 min for the MPs to GET live ammunition, even in an emergency, at least on Ft Lee, Va - that much I can tell you, although one might get lucky if a nearby unit has a CO whos "assistant" (aka enforcer) is armed, and some of them are.
There's also that without visible command authority to hold their hand, no one is likely to take independent action which might have made this less of a mess, and our training methods don't leave guys wrapped too tight anyhow, so a swift, coordinated response to something like this wasn't likely in the first place.
I have no information at this time - but I did note that the IMMEDIATE reaction of both the media and political factors was "Hey, he has an arab sounding name, maybe we can hang this on radical islam, yay!"
Which both sickens me, and gives perhaps a hint of what set the guy off, since his service record is NO REL PREF (No Religious Preference), which is often interpreted by other troops as non-christian aka "evil".
We had some serious problems in Ft Jackson and Ft Lee related to that, since the US Army has a heavy bent towards mainstream protestent christianity, and such factors were often taken into account when they should not have been.
There's also likely a factor of secondary caregiver trauma, as mental health personnel treating PTSD tend to suffer a high degree of psychological casualty themselves - and whoever dumped him on Ft Hood from Walter Reed might well have soft-shoed their assessment in order to be well rid of him if he was starting to crack.
Right now, we do not know - and given that first reaction and the bullshit ass-covering spin cycle likely to follow, we might not ever know the facts.
That's all I can say to it, at the moment.
-F
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Reports thus far seem to indicate this. From what I've heard, he was in ROTC, military paid for six years of education, and ever since Iraq started he's been afraid of deployment. Given what Army p-docs (our shortened term for psychiatrists) see and hear, I'm not surprised. Also, it's absolutely true that mental-health problems, suicide and other things have a higher incidence in p-docs than in many others.
There's also likely a factor of secondary caregiver trauma, as mental health personnel treating PTSD tend to suffer a high degree of psychological casualty themselves
I've heard that he was a nonviolent person, never shot a gun outside the firing range and didn't even like doing that. It sounds like the idea of going to Iraq snapped him, which wouldn't surprise me. He hears the worst of it, and they estimate 20% of soldiers returning from duty suffer from PTSD.
I haven't heard any news saying an armed man would be anything special on a base, and they seem to have determined he was the only one involved. No doubt we'll learn more in time; apparently the army is being very close-mouthed about it at present.
Interestingly, someone on the website I run posted an article from the NY Times today that read in part:Quote:
I find that an encouraging development; for so long the military didn't even ACKNOWLEDGE PTSD a lot of the time, and I don't know if treatment for it has improved since then...?
In September, the Army announced that it would spend $300,000 to study the impact of pairing psychiatric service dogs like Jet with soldiers returning from Iraq and Afghanistan with post-traumatic stress disorder. Both the House and Senate have recently passed bills that would finance the training and placement of these dogs with veterans.
The article, by the way, is really neat...it's about dog intelligence and assistance dogs, and some of it is pretty amazing. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/01/weekinreview/01kershaw.html?_r=1
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According to the news conference with the commanding general, the shooter is alive but in the hospital. And he never has deployed.
The person that shot him was a female first responder. She originally was thought to be dead but is alive.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,572305,00.html
http://fireflyfaninnc.livejournal.com/
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Re: Fort Hood Black Ops False Flag...Evidence of Revision IN REAL TIME!!!!
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HE IS NOT DEAD?
According to Fox he was wounded, in stable condition, and death is not immenent
I've just heard on CNN that the shooter had actually been watched by authorities after he made several threats online, about blowing him/or something else up. I can't remember the exact claim; but it was something similar. I reckon they'll be more info on this later.
this is looking like MK Ultra/sirhan sirhan type shit or Kazinski.
He was at Waler Reed which was used in the MK Ultra projects of patsy assassins.
THIS IS RENDEN/OMNICOM/LINCOLN DISINFO SCRIPT
READ EACH SENTENCE
EVERYTHING IS TOTAL HORSESHITE WITH NO SOURCES
THIS ALWAYS HAPPENS WITH A FALSE FLAG
IF IT WAS TRUE....
THEN THE US ARMY WANTED THIS TO HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I seriously get the feeling that they're going to use this as a reason and an example as to why they should lock things down even more/increase the magnitude of the police state, and justify all of the corruption & locking-down that has taken place already...
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We allow (even take twisted joy in the fact) that bad peeps going to jail will "be someone's bitch."
We turn a blind eye to bullies in Grade/JR/High School.
Eff you who don't see this s**t coming.
There but for the grace of early martial art training go I.
Hyperfocused Chrisisall
The not-laughing Chrisisall
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This is what happens when you employ radical islamics to do the jobs of Americans
Major Nidal Malik Hasan, 39, was born in Virginia to parents who moved to the US from a Palestinian town near Jerusalem.
He was described as a devout Muslim - a local imam told the Washington Post that he attended daily prayers at a mosque when he worked at the Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington DC
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Sudden Jihad Syndrome
get this on a mug
The tendency among supposedly Westernized Muslims living in the United States to unexpectedly lash out violently in an act of self-initiated (and usually small scale) Islamic terrorism.
Also abbreviated to “SJS” or “S.J.S.” Examples include Mohammed Reza Taheri-azar who drove his SUV into a crowd at the University of North Carolina in 2006, Naveed Alzal Haq who shot people at a Jewish Federation Center in Seattle also in 2006, Hesham Mohammed Hadayet who murdered people at the El Al terminal in the Los Angeles Airport in 2002 — among many others.
In all of these instances, the perpetrators had no known direct connection to any established group, and because of this the authorities inevitably refrain from describing their actions as “terrorism” — hence the sarcastic term “Sudden Jihad Syndrome.”
CAIR spokesman: "Jihad means one's own INNER struggle. You are purposely misrepresenting the teachings of Islam!"
Anyone with eyes to see: "Well, when someone breaks out with a case of Sudden Jihad Syndrome, it looks more like an OUTER conflict against random third parties."
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UK: Muslim Mother of Six wants her Children to blow up for Jihad
Houria Chahed Chentouf
A mother of six who concealed bomb-making manuals on a computer memory stick hidden inside her burka as she flew into Britain has been given a two-year jail sentence.
Houria Chahed Chentouf, 41, a Moroccan-born Dutch woman, had developed an obsession with jihad, or holy war, amassing a huge library on how to become an effective terrorist, Manchester Crown Court was told
Muslims once again using the NYC public transportation system as a platform, while trying to bring more people to Islam. My suggestion is that if you see a pedicab with a pro-Islam ad on it, tell the driver that you do not accept Islam and will find another pedicab. Thank you.
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Major Malik Nadal Hasan, the shooter in today's Fort Hood attack, had made his pro-Islamic views well known in the past. Why was this lowlife allowed to continue to serve? Oh, I forgot the Pentagon does not have the guts to face Islam for what it really is. Don't be surprised to see more Muslim on non-Muslim attacks like this, within the US Military.
PirateSnooze says Blame the West
Blame the FBI
Blame Bush
Blame Obama
Balme the CIA
Blame the Jews
but for some reason Pirate Snooze refuses to blame the scumbag muslims who commit these terrorist acts in the first place !
Are you an Islamic sympathizer PirateNews?
According to the Washington Post (and cited at JihadWatch):
“Hasan attended the Muslim Community Center in Silver Spring and was ‘very devout,’ according to Faizul Khan, a former imam at the center. Khan said Hasan attended prayers at least once a day, seven days a week, often in his Army fatigues. Khan also said Hasan applied to an annual matrimonial seminar that matches Muslims looking for spouses. ‘I don’t think he ever had a match, because he had too many conditions,’ Khan said.”
The Jihadist is Always the Victim: the “Backlash, that Dreaded Backlash!” Who Will Save the Poor Muslims Now?
by sheikyermami on November 6, 2009
“It wasn’t his fault: he suffered from Sudden Jihad Symdrome
and was “Driven to murder!”
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I have no information at this time - but I did note that the IMMEDIATE reaction of both the media and political factors was "Hey, he has an arab sounding name, maybe we can hang this on radical islam, yay!"
Which both sickens me, and gives perhaps a hint of what set the guy off...
And the above fools instant and unthinking regurgitation of said bullshit proves exactly the point I was making, does it not ?
But hey, who needs evidence when you have ideology, right ?
Dipshits.
-Frem
"This is vengeance...
So I am to ferry you to hell."
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“Unfriendly Fire”
It’s a terrible tragedy. My heart goes out to the victims and their families. I have a niece ( sister’s child) and she and her husband and their baby are stationed at Fort Hood. He’s been deployed to Spain but she and the baby are there.
She phoned my sister yesterday saying that they were alright but on “Lock Down”. I’m sure they are as confused as everyone about this.
Z
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