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American Dictator

POSTED BY: dreamtrove
UPDATED: Wednesday, November 4, 2009 21:48
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Tuesday, November 3, 2009 12:21 PM

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Jong,

I'm not even sure what planet you're living on. Rwanda, Yugoslavia, world war chaos, genocide in Iran, America old off in pieces, systematic deregulation of the antitrust, the ponzi setup of a marketing scheme that would allow the banks to take over the country completely, and virtually everything that Bush, the next pawn, would do, only without as much media coverage.

I mean, you could fill a presidential library with his crimes, a book with his pre-office crimes, but I'll start with this one: The man killed 10 million people. That's impressive for a US president. The nation was at war every single year he was in office, yet I hear liberals refer to it as "Eight years of peace," (this is the sort of comment that makes me doubt colbert really thinks before he talks.) Just try telling that to someone in africa, the middle east or eastern europe.

And no, this is not a partisan position. Pick the most lefty candidate you have. Kucinich? Chomsky? Conyers? whoever you put forward, I'll probably gladly take them if it gets us rid of the clintons.




Dream....I'm from Earth. I guess you're from Planet Of The Clinton-Hating Revisionists because all those things you attached to his name are falsely applied, or had no impact on me or the average American....

Rwanda - What the hell was he supposed to do anyway? Send in troops? Support who? Tribal/ethnic violence in Africa really not his mandate.

Yugoslavia - again he should have done what? I think he played it perfectly. American support for the defenseless, yet keep our troops out of it. The stategy worked, and peace came to the region.

World War chaos? - Really, 'cause even my son's brand new history book only goes up to WWII. Please write to the publishers about WWIII so they can catch up on things.

Genocide in Iran? - I must have missed that, or really not given a crap. I think I started taking pilates classes that week. What genocide you talkin' 'bout Willis?

10 million dead? - Clinton must be a helllava shot. More hyperbolized bs methinks.

US at war for 8 years under Clinton? - Another event I must have slept through, unless you actually mean his successor Bush.

He signed legislation that balanced the budget for the first time in decades. He signed legislation that reformed Welfare. He signed legislation to protect traditional marraige. Hell, he was the best damn Republican, I mean Democrat President we had in my lifetime.

The only real mistake I can attribute to Bill was his waffling on the Gays in the military thing. If people want to serve the country they ought to be able to regardless their sexual leanings. As I see it, our military should be ALL Gay! They represent everything the military seeks from our soldiers and sailors : clean, neat, organized, strong, committed, brave, smart, and hard-working. The motto should have been "We're Gay, We blow our enemies away."

One can clearly see that Clinton was indeed a great President, and his 8 years shine far above any of his contemporaries.

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Tuesday, November 3, 2009 3:08 PM

Jong,

Sorry, iraq, not iran, my error. This is not worth the time to argue, but there's no conspiracy theory or revision.

Start reading people who disagree with you.. It's the only way to get informed. It's what I did, and the reason I'm not in lock step with anyone. I read everything from al jazeera to the jerusalem post. All of this and much more was news from very credible sources, just not heavily covered. Even the NYT reported Clinton's secret torture prisons. On page 38

Look up the Rwanda Veto, gun running operations, the iraq embargo, learn your Clinton, cause he's one evil motherfucker, and that's personal, not political. Yeah, I would say Cheney is an evil mofo as well, but they're evil together. And yes, lots of republicans didn't realize that Bush was evil. This wasn't because they were stupid, it was because the listened to FOX news and didn't read the nation, or even crooks and liars. People aren't comfortable reading positions they disagree with.

I have too much work to do to debate the evils of Clinton, which IMHO, would be like starting out talking to a "new christian" and trying to talk them into the idea that Bush was evil. It would take weeks.

I recommend this though, because I think it's important: If you value Obama or the democratic party, and the ideas for which they stand, then it's a good idea to know your Clintons very well, because they're the ones fucking it up. And yes, I know that some people *personally* know the Clintons, I know a couple of people who do myself, but even if you personally know the Clintons, getting to know them on an underworld level is a good survival instinct.

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Wednesday, November 4, 2009 5:36 AM



Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:

I think they captured his essense.





Yes, they did.

Jew Bill Clinton Blythe III was bastard son of kosher Arkansas governor Winthrop Rockefeller.
www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz=1C1GGLS_enUS346US346&um=1&q=bill%20cli
nton%20winthrop%20rockefeller&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=iw&start=0




The kosher Rockefellers armed and fueled Nazi Germany all during World War 2, just like Prescott Bush.
www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz=1C1GGLS_enUS346US346&q=rockefeller+sta
ndard+oil+nazi+germany&aq=f&oq=&aqi
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Bill bombed Yugoslavia, just like jew Adolf Hitler Shicklegruber Rothschild bombed Yugoslavia.

So of course a statue of Bill "Clinton" would display a Nazi salute.


http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2007/10/14/protestors-tear-down-vic
ente-fox-statue
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Wednesday, November 4, 2009 2:16 PM

John,

Again, you have a point here. It greatly disturbed me that Clinton is essentially giving a Nazi salute in the statue, but I dodged the issue because I didn't want to Godwin. Interesting about Fox as well.

ETA:

The point being that the Nazi Genocide against the Serbs was a position that the Kosovars could identify with, as they were also in favor of genocide against Serb, whom they often describe as "soulless" and "evil" and do not consider human, not to say that the same isn't true on both sides, but having met a fair number of each, I can see in spite of Slobodan Milosevic who was definitely soulless and evil, and his militias which remind me of the Sudanese Janjaweed, that another *reason* the Kosovars would idolize Clinton was the degree to which he supported that Nazi position. They also of course admire him for supporting their independence, post ethnic-cleansing of course, an independent Kosovo, free of Serb infection. There is still a Serb minority

Not taking the Serb side, certain not that of Milosevic's Yugoslav Socialist regime, but seeing it objectively, there was a fair amount of evil to go around, and Clinton was part of it. For those who still support him, this is probably third on my list of "ten most nazi things about Clinton."

It does worry me that he is becoming our shadow leader. I think he's not just one of the worst humanitarians to appear on the Earth, but probably downright evil to the core. Bush and Cheney are also pretty close to that, just less accomplished at it.

I have serious problems with Vladimir Putin, but I would not put him down on a level with Bush or Clinton. More dictatorial, but not as evil.

There I go using that word again. Still, it fits.

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Wednesday, November 4, 2009 6:45 PM

You guys DO know your left from your right, don't you?

And I certainly hope neither of you ever waves "hello" to anyone, lest you be unveiled for being "secret Nazis". Okay, with PN it's no secret...

Mike

Let the wild rumpus start!

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Wednesday, November 4, 2009 9:48 PM

actually, most people don't nazi salute hello, but that wasn't the point. The Kosovars *chose* that pose (over clinton with his pants down, which admittedly was the only other picture they could find online) But seriously, the last person to exterminate massive number of Serbs and then be worshipped for it by other yugoslavs was someone who was known for a very similar pose.

Sorry mike, this is a no brainer, the sculptors knew what they were doing, they were comparing the Clinton to the Fuhrer, and they thought that comparison was flattering.

I don't know left from right, but I know both of the above world leaders to be left, but not lefties. Obama is a leftie.

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