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Total newb, just watched the entire series - HOLY SH*T

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UPDATED: Friday, October 30, 2009 07:03
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Wednesday, October 28, 2009 8:56 PM

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'...WHY or HOW did I not see this series when it was on TV? This show is probably one of the best series I have EVER seen, and I say that without exaggeration. To think that if more had been introduced to it, it might still be on.

CAST: Best ensemble cast I have ever watched on screen. Makes Star Trek (in all of it's incarnations) seem absolutely plastic and pathetic in comparison.

WRITING: Best writing in a TV series I can recall. Northern Exposure and Buffy(of course) are up in this realm for me. Compelling stories, but not afraid to show humor and quirkiness in the face of annihilation.

SETTING: This is no polished, unbelievable polyester-suit-wearing, haughty space opera. This feels REAL. The fact that they never really explain all of the backstory is KEY...you can guess that Chinese society and culture took over and can figure out most of the Chinese sayings by the context. Letting the audience figure this stuff out is crucial to an excellent series. You can guess that "Earth That Was" was probably taken out in some stupid war...There are lots of little things Whedon lets in with zero backstory, just to make your mind work backwards and think of all the possibilities.

I am now a Firefly fan FOREVER...can't wait to buy this set for my lown (watched a friends).

BEST BEST BEST BEST

Finding something this new and fresh give sme chills.

Bog




Probably 'one of' the best ?

Surely , you mean to reconsider THAT !

Them's FIGHTIN' WORDS !

Welcome to the boat ! " You're late ! "

Good to have you flyin' with us...

Some books and whatnot :

http://www.amazon.com/Investigating-Firefly-Serenity-Science-Frontier/
dp/1845116542/ref=sr_1_2/182-2565006-4835348?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1256763104&sr=8-2

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Wednesday, October 28, 2009 9:19 PM

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Total newb, just watched the entire series - HOLY SH*T




"Whatever is wrong with you is so right for me." -- Marillion.

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Wednesday, October 28, 2009 9:22 PM

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Probably 'one of' the best ?

Surely , you mean to reconsider THAT !

Them's FIGHTIN' WORDS !



I retract my statement. Lets just call this the best and get that out there. I always hesitate over something so new and potent, thinking that maybe the gloss will diminish on repeat viewings...but in the vein of other epic series, I suppose that this one is simply not going to be topped.

I am just stunned...after every episode I watched I shook my head and said to my friend: "this can't be this good, no show is this good."...and the episodes just KEPT COMING.

EVERY ONE is a classic! Seriously EVERY ONE.

I kept expecting things to go to hell, and the episodes to become boring and trite. Or for the preaching to come, like in Star Trek. Yet, the wit stayed strong, and just got BETTER.

AMAZING...I am just glowy with praise.

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Wednesday, October 28, 2009 10:13 PM

Fanfiction wise, there's all genres and character focuses, you're pretty much guaranteed to find something you like.

If you like pure canon humour/adventure type stuff, I'd go with ScrewtheAlliance. Don't read Unfinished Business (which, unfortunately, is unfinished) until you've seen the movie Serenity. Kaylee's Lament, while funny, I thought was less in-character, I would really prefer Treasure, but heads up, that's a LONG one.

http://www.fireflyfans.net/showprofile.asp?un=ScrewtheAlliance

There's also Peptuck, though he gets a little bit pulp-fiction with the violence, which I like but some don't. You might want to avoid this one until you've seen the movie because he gives a spoiler in his Author's Notes right away, but it's AU so it's just like the series.

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4099993/1/Forward

and Mal4Prez. Her stories lean towards Mal/Inara, and I don't know what you think about that pairing, but there's some stuff in her work for everyone.

http://www.fireflyfans.net/showprofile.asp?un=mal4prez

I think they're probably the three most recommended authors I'm aware of.

Hmm, other lay of the land info... Being I'm huge on Mal/Inara, I have to rec my friend Aliasse, though some of her work got deleted so you may want to ask around for some background information if you check her out. GillianRose is another favourite of mine, she's posted over on fanfiction.net but she comments over here. 2x2's Sushi-collab fics, The Slower Path, and Choices are full of yay. CharlieBZ is another great Mal/Inara author, though her work is post Big Damn Movie (BDM) as well, so spoilers. Agent Rouka I think has posted a few good ones, she's fun to talk characterization and Firefly with. Then there's goldie and intopaper, who I don't think post any more, but they had some nice stuff. Clios has a fantastic post movie story that switches from pre-series to present studying Mal and Inara from Mal's POV, but watch out for spoilers.

AMDOBELL is a prolific writer with a lot of different fast-paced Firefly crew stories.

Jane0904, Angellemarcs, and Briglad all have an impressive amount of work they've written in regards to OCs they've created who have joined up with the crew, their work is very popular.

For Mal/River, there's slumming who is also very popular.

And last but not least, there are lots of Jayne/River authors recently, but shamed to say I don't know much about them.

There's always Simon Kaylee, though I haven't seen as many recently where they're the main couple, and always a few Zoe Wash. There's also Jayne Kaylee and a few more exotic ones.

And if pairings don't suit your interests, there's plenty of non-romantic character centric fics.

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Wednesday, October 28, 2009 10:18 PM

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Total newb, just watched the entire series - HOLY SH*T




Heh. We do get that a lot, don't we?

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Wednesday, October 28, 2009 10:59 PM

Welcome aboard the best boat in the 'verse. Glad to have you flyin' with us.

My story is different. I watched Firefly from the beginning on FOX, loved it and cursed much worse than gorram or ruttin' when it was canceled. I am a long time science fiction fan, of books as well as movies and tv. I'm 59 and I grew up on Twilight Zone, The Outer Limits, Star Trek and so many more. Until Firefly came along I was of the opinion that Babylon 5 was the best SF series ever made, but not only does Firefly beat it, I think it is the BEST SERIES EVER! PERIOD.

I've seen the series well over twenty times so far, and I can guarantee you it is still fresh and exciting, with nuances you will be discovering for years to come. Along with the other books and comics mentioned, there are two separate volumes of Firefly Visual Companions and one for the movie Serenity. Both have the full scripts, interviews and bios with the actors, writers and other crew, but also great features on props, costumes and concept designs. Highly recommended.

No offense intended to anyone who writes fanfic, but I don't read any of it. With one exception, although it is a bit different. Steven Brust, well-known author, was one who submitted a proposal for a Firefly/Serenity novel, a project that never went anywhere, probably because Joss felt he had the chance to tell more stories on screen and didn't want to relinquish control of plot. Well, Steven went ahead and wrote his and finally got the approval to release it as fanfic. You can download it at: http://dreamcafe.com/firefly.html

Once again, welcome aboard. Settle in for a long and enjoyable ride. Chow's in ten, no need to dress.




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Wednesday, October 28, 2009 11:07 PM

Howdy BogMonkey and welcome aboard the best-es ship in the whole universe!!!!!


First of all Zeek, NewOldBrowncoat, Asarian, Bytemite, FloralBunny, Sister,Niki2, Out2The Black, Karel,Cybersnark and ECGordon have all welcomed you and just about said most all there needs to be said.


We are so glad to have you here!!

Grab you some mudders milk and kick your feet up. Yepper, Firefly met an all to early demise. We all agree on that. But we here don’t feel that it’s totally gone. And neither do the actors that were part of the show, nor Joss Whedon , Tim Miner and a whole lot of others.

Check out CASTLE just this week on ABC ( starting Nathon Fillion) and see what we mean.

I, like you am branded a second or third generation browncoat. This only means that I wasn’t there when it originally played on television. But let me tell ya something, that’s not a bad thing. What would be bad is if you’d never found FF at all. You’re here and we’re glad you’re here. Check out our BDM “Serenity” if you haven’t already……and by all means post up here and tell us what you think.

Spread the word of this marvelous show that didn’t make it to season 2. I have to admit that I came across Firefly one time when it originally aired and watched it for about 10 seconds. I don’t beat myself up for not watching it then, I’m sorry that I didn’t but what can I say about that? I can only tell ya that I found it later and that I’m here.

Nice to have ya here, Z

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Thursday, October 29, 2009 12:06 AM

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BEST BEST BEST BEST

Finding something this new and fresh gives me chills.




Welcome! Welcome! Welcome! Welcome!

It's like great music - it feels somehow familiar and yet new at the same time.

You got me reminiscing... when I first got here there was some amazing fan art that helped color my first impressions - check out:

http://the11thhour.home.att.net/

great stuff.

You should checkout the unfilmed script. What? Yes! There's a real show script that did not get filmed - it's like another ep:

http://www.whedon.info/article.php3?id_article=8136

and then you'll be ready for some amazing fan fiction scripts courtesy of http://stillflying.net - they took off where the tv series ended, um, paused, and have done amazing work imho. There's even a rumor of them doing a season 3...

Enjoy!

Scifi movie music + Firefly dialogue clips, 24 hours a day - http://www.scifiradio.com

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Thursday, October 29, 2009 3:34 AM

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If anyone has any recommendations on the "best" fanfic on this site I would appreciate it. (Author or Titles).



Slumming is banned worldwide. Censorship is the sincerest form of flattery.

Look what Fox did to Firefly.

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Thursday, October 29, 2009 4:24 AM

Welcome, I'm another one who saw the movie first then discovered the series. I think I saw the whole thing in 2 sittings.

Lots of things going on. CantStopTheSerenity screenings, hopefully in a city near you, The screenings of the Big Damm Movie are lots of fun with costumes, auctions and all sorts of stuff and benefits Equality Now, Joss Whedon's charity of choice.

They also benefit some other Browncoat charities like the Marine Corps Law Enforcement Foundation (Adam Baldwin's charity of choice), KidsNeedtoRead, a charity that donates books to needy libraries and is co founded by Nathan Fillion and lots of other local charities. As you see Browncoats have big hearts.

BTW there is a fan film coming out at Dragon Con next September. Principal photography is done and the editing and other goodies are being added now. It has been blessed by Joss and is being made by a great group of BCs. It will also benefit some Browncoat charities. www.browncoatsmovie.com

I obligated to say the fan film is awesome because I spent a weekend in Maryland being an extra (you may see me for 2 seconds if I am lucky) and spent Dragon Con this year hanging with the cast and the crew. I'm also an active member of KidsNeedtoRead. www.kidsneedtoread.org Everyone is also welcome over at www.pjhaarsma.com where we plot to invade libraries everywhere.

I'm wondering why no one has done this yet. *rummages in the virtual closet and brings out a dusty browncoat. Gives it a swat and chokes on the dust and hands it to Bogmonkey*

Wear it with pride and spread the word.



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