5 Reasons it sucks being a Joss Whedon fan

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STORYMARK

Thursday, October 15, 2009 10:30 PM

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Yeah, but with Browncoats, it may be a small faction of over-zealous nuts - but they are HARD CORE about being obnoxious. If I hadn't already been a fan, they might have scared me off.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

I've been a member of a few obnoxious fandoms, and have had my brush with some truly horrible fans, but I guess I've just never met a HARDCORE obnoxious as hell Firefly fan (though I have heard of it). Either that or I did, but they paled in comparison to some of the other non compos mentis fans I know.

Of course now that I said this, I will probably meet a super obnoxious browncoat that the next Con I attend.

Your Indian Pirate Lord,
Ash

Well, you may have met an over-zealous one, but since you are already a Browncoat, they'd have no need to turn on the crazy.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

PIRATENEWS

Thursday, October 15, 2009 10:54 PM

Steinem, Gloria Steinem, license to bullshit

Bobby "Fanboy" Roberts worships Joss. Probably works for Joss. Reverse psyop marketing. With cussin.

Feminazism is a CIA plot to destroy America, just like LSD. Ask Gloria Steinham. And the suckers fell for it.

Buffy was cute, because it was so RIDICULOUS. But now it's gone way too far. It's not funny any more. 100 lb chicks beating up 250 lb roidheads? Not without a gun they won't.

Joss is just in it to make a few millions bucks. Does Joss' wife work? Fuck no. Woman's place is in the home, making babies, raising a family of sane healthy patriotic asskickers who love her and will take care of her, while her HUSBAND is working and paying NO STINKIN TAXES. Frakkin juice.

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Trading Juice: Aaron Russo assassinated by Little Nicky Rockefeller

In a later conversation, Rockefeller asked Russo what he thought women's liberation was about. Russo's response that he thought it was about the right to work and receive equal pay as men, just as they had won the right to vote, caused Rockefeller to laughingly retort, "You're an idiot! Let me tell you what that was about, we the Rockefeller's funded that, we funded women's lib, we're the one's who got all of the newspapers and television - the Rockefeller Foundation."

Rockefeller told Russo of two primary reasons why the elite bankrolled women's lib, one because before women's lib the bankers couldn't tax half the population and two because it allowed them to get children in school at an earlier age, enabling them to be indoctrinated into accepting the state as the primary family, breaking up the traditional family model.

This revelation dovetails previous admissions on behalf of feminist pioneer Gloria Steinem (pictured) that the CIA bankrolled Ms. Magazine as part of the same agenda of breaking up traditional family models.

Rockefeller was often keen to stress his idea that "the people have to be ruled" by an elite and that one of the tools of such power was population reduction, that there were "too many people in the world," and world population numbers should be reduced by at least half.

Russo states that Rockefeller told him, "Eleven months before 9/11 happened there was going to be an event and out of that event we were going to invade Afghanistan to run pipelines through the Caspian sea, we were going to invade Iraq to take over the oil fields and establish a base in the Middle East, and we'd go after Chavez in Venezuela."

Rockefeller also told Russo that he would see soldiers looking in caves in Afghanistan and Pakistan for Osama bin Laden and that there would be an "Endless war on terror where there's no real enemy and the whole thing is a giant hoax," so that "the government could take over the American people," according to Russo, who said that Rockefeller was cynically laughing and joking as he made the astounding prediction.

During one conversation, Rockefeller asked Russo if he was interested in joining the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) but Russo rejected the invitation, saying he had no interest in "enslaving the people" to which Rockefeller coldly questioned why he cared about the "serfs."

"I used to say to him what's the point of all this," states Russo, "you have all the money in the world you need, you have all the power you need, what's the point, what's the end goal?" to which Rockefeller replied (paraphrasing), "The end goal is to get everybody chipped, to control the whole society, to have the bankers and the elite people control the world."

www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2007/290107rockefellergoal.htm

Mur

BYTEMITE

Thursday, October 15, 2009 11:40 PM

...Okay, PN, look. Feminazis are intolerable, and the first feminists also had a chilling tendency to write books advocating eugenics and birthcontrol and abortion not for female empowerment, but for plain simple population reduction. And that does raise some questions about the legitimacy of just what they were really trying to ACCOMPLISH with feminism.

But 1) please cut out women's suffrage from your argument, and

2) even before feminism, not all women fit into that little box you constructed. Joan of Arc died for not fitting into that box, and since you're religious, I point out that she was a SAINT.

I find your vision oppressive. I also add, against the government, you fellas need all the damn help you can get. Lastly, I know, for a FACT that there are some women who should never get married or have kids. And I know this because I'm one of them, and I have MADE that choice, because I'm crazy and I would be incredibly irresponsible. There are other women who would make this same choice, perhaps for different reasons, but that choice should be respected. As should a woman who chooses to have a career, or a man who chooses to NOT have a career and be a stay-at-home dad.

CHRISISALL

Friday, October 16, 2009 12:17 AM

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that there are some women who should never get married or have kids. And I know this because I'm one of them, and I have MADE that choice, because I'm crazy and I would be incredibly irresponsible.

To make such a statement & choice proves you are neither, merely prudent. In time this may change. Kudos for your self-awareness.

The laughing Chrisisall

HOPERULES

Friday, October 16, 2009 1:40 AM

Rough little article, but it does bring up some interesting (possibly true) points. Number 5 really hits home to me. Some the air went out of Dr. Horrible for me at the end. I know the last song was really clever but I was still so surprised by the ending I was not paying much attention. It was like Hamlet ending as a Three Stooges Movie or better yet a Three Stooges Movie ending as Hamlet.

May have been on the losing side, still not convinced it was the wrong one.

FREMDFIRMA

Friday, October 16, 2009 1:54 AM

Re: Feminism.

Yanno, I really liked Zoe, she was an atypical but realistic character, career military without an army to serve, stoic - but without being unfeminine, leastways in my opinion.

Kaylee was of course more my speed, gearhead and more or less Anarchist, all free spirited n stuff.

One of the things I held against the BDM was in fact turning River into Buffy, rather than something more complex and interesting.

I've never really been much of a fan of Whedons other stuff, especially Buffy, while admittedly he makes decent stuff, it's not MY kinda stuff, but Firefly was definitely above average in its portrayal of female characters, up to and including Yo-Saf-Brig, cause I've run into MORE than a few of those via the office politics my ex had to deal with in the white collar world, and I tellya, Mal had the right idea - they can't play you if they're unconscious, lol.

-Frem

CHRISISALL

Friday, October 16, 2009 2:03 AM

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One of the things I held against the BDM was in fact turning River into Buffy, rather than something more complex and interesting.

You saw something different coming from the series? It was the logical Whedon extension of the origin, man. To say otherwise is to project.

The laughing Chrisisall

JAYNEZTOWN

Sunday, May 9, 2021 3:38 PM

Gal Gadot confirms Joss Whedon 'threatened' her career

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, May 10, 2021 11:03 AM

Sure he did.

I don't think Joss could have done to Gal Gadot's career what WW1984 did to it if he tried.

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Give me liberty or just come shoot me in my house. I'm so over this ridiculous reality.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Tuesday, May 11, 2021 5:40 AM

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Originally posted by piratenews:
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Trading Juice: Aaron Russo assassinated by Little Nicky Rockefeller

In a later conversation, Rockefeller asked Russo what he thought women's liberation was about. Russo's response that he thought it was about the right to work and receive equal pay as men, just as they had won the right to vote, caused Rockefeller to laughingly retort, "You're an idiot! Let me tell you what that was about, we the Rockefeller's funded that, we funded women's lib, we're the one's who got all of the newspapers and television - the Rockefeller Foundation."

Rockefeller told Russo of two primary reasons why the elite bankrolled women's lib, one because before women's lib the bankers couldn't tax half the population and two because it allowed them to get children in school at an earlier age, enabling them to be indoctrinated into accepting the state as the primary family, breaking up the traditional family model.

This revelation dovetails previous admissions on behalf of feminist pioneer Gloria Steinem (pictured) that the CIA bankrolled Ms. Magazine as part of the same agenda of breaking up traditional family models.

Rockefeller was often keen to stress his idea that "the people have to be ruled" by an elite and that one of the tools of such power was population reduction, that there were "too many people in the world," and world population numbers should be reduced by at least half.

Russo states that Rockefeller told him, "Eleven months before 9/11 happened there was going to be an event and out of that event we were going to invade Afghanistan to run pipelines through the Caspian sea, we were going to invade Iraq to take over the oil fields and establish a base in the Middle East, and we'd go after Chavez in Venezuela."

Rockefeller also told Russo that he would see soldiers looking in caves in Afghanistan and Pakistan for Osama bin Laden and that there would be an "Endless war on terror where there's no real enemy and the whole thing is a giant hoax," so that "the government could take over the American people," according to Russo, who said that Rockefeller was cynically laughing and joking as he made the astounding prediction.

During one conversation, Rockefeller asked Russo if he was interested in joining the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) but Russo rejected the invitation, saying he had no interest in "enslaving the people" to which Rockefeller coldly questioned why he cared about the "serfs."

"I used to say to him what's the point of all this," states Russo, "you have all the money in the world you need, you have all the power you need, what's the point, what's the end goal?" to which Rockefeller replied (paraphrasing), "The end goal is to get everybody chipped, to control the whole society, to have the bankers and the elite people control the world."

www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2007/290107rockefellergoal.htm

Murdered for a movie

Presidential candidate Aaron Russo Assassination Plot Trial
www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=aaron+russo+murdered&aq=0&oq
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Well that is a fairly good explanation. But it does miss the relationship of single income earner families with decent pay, to doubling the workforce and halving the pay, requiring 2-earner households because women wanted to work, too.

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