Regarding the stupid myth that Reagan brought down the evil Soviet Empire...
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Friday, August 29, 2025 18:07
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Jayneztown
So, your problem with Kim Jong is that he's too liberal for you - good to know.
SDI was always a sop to the Mil-Indy Complex, and Reagan HAD a chance in Geneva with Gorbie - Gorbie offered a full disarmament agreement on the condition that SDI remain a lab project only cause the idea of weapons in space horrifies every *thinking* individual on the planet, and Reagan, knowing that building stuff was the prime sop to roll the gravy train to the MIC, balked, and Gorbie walked out.
He sold us out for fucking PORKBARREL, curse it - and that's one of those things that is inexcusable even in a pit of gross negligence, utter incompetence and pure stupidity, right up there with sending Bolton to the UN, shit that sticks FOREVER.
Besides which, we were *pickin shit*, even at the time, one of my fathers old navy buddies, a submariner, during that same timeframe was on a mission where he finally came out and said what had been bothering him for weeks.
"Seems to me we're not preventing WWIII, but rather provoking it, or trying to."
Man stood to it, too - next stop, he refused to get back on the boat, far as he was concerned the submarine service was a volunteer one and he was un-volunteering.
If you know of the mission in question (Ivy Bells) then you know he had some cause to feel that way.
And how kind of you to pull the mask off and admit you have no problem with outright treason against the american people for partisan politican gain, it sure simplifies discrediting you when you annihilate your own credibility with no input from me.
-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it
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Originally posted by rue:
[BSad that a full-time cynic and misogynist like Heinlein captured the future so well.
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Silence is consent.
Hello,
Just what is it that Heinlein wrote that makes so many women on this board think of him as misogynistic?
I remember him as one of the (few) sci-fi writers of his age who wrote many intelligent, strong, and capable women. I sometimes felt that the women in his works were more capable than the men.
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
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Quote:You have no idea of the power utilzation curve on such a weapon. Simple decoys sent to drain its supply would suffice.
Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
a large blast/fragmentation warhead that would give it a large zone kill radius.
D'Oh!
The laughing Chrisisall
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Quote:Yeah, he said that when he said he liked Bush Sr.
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
And how kind of you to pull the mask off and admit you have no problem with outright treason against the american people
Read my lips.
No new Contras.
Or something...
The laughing Chrisisall
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I assume the Russia/Vietnam was sarcasm, the most needed emoticon...
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Afghanistan will be OUR Afghanistan
lol. sad but true.
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:You have no idea of the power utilzation curve on such a weapon. Simple decoys sent to drain its supply would suffice.
Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
a large blast/fragmentation warhead that would give it a large zone kill radius.
D'Oh!
The laughing Chrisisall
oh, I see your problem
KV = kill vehicle, you know a missile
not a laser
sorry, I should have been more clear
" I don't believe in hypothetical situations - it's kinda like lying to your brain "
" They don't hate America, they hate Americans " Homer Simpson
Lets party like its 1939
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Quote:It's still shooting bullets with bullets.
Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
oh, I see your problem
KV = kill vehicle, you know a missile
not a laser
sorry, I should have been more clear
Get back to me on this in a hundred years.
The laughing Chrisisall
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Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:It's still shooting bullets with bullets.
Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
oh, I see your problem
KV = kill vehicle, you know a missile
not a laser
sorry, I should have been more clear
Get back to me on this in a hundred years.
The laughing Chrisisall
Hello,
If you you are actually referring to shooting missiles with cannons, that's a well established non-sci-fi technology.
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
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Quote:Hello Tony:
Originally posted by AnthonyT:
If you you are actually referring to shooting missiles with cannons, that's a well established non-sci-fi technology.
No. I'm talking about missiles traveling amazing speeds over distances & unplottable terrestrial anomolies that our computing abilities are, as of yet, incapable of precisely comprehending.
Star Trek is YEARS away.
Beam me up.
The laughing Chrisisall
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Hello,
I'm not sure I can concur with your assessment. There are moments in extra-atmospheric transit where missile courses are necessarily highly predictable. By their very definition, terrestrial anomalies are not a factor out in the black. A technology like metalstorm could probably be used from a space platform to saturate an entire grid with kinetic kill projectiles. It's a lot less Star Trek than it is Very Expensive and Not A Priority.
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
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