Mal's Pistol

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REYVNDARKNIGHT

Friday, March 5, 2004 7:23 PM

I think its a gauss pistol. Whedon's few nods to sci-fi elements.

MADJACK

Friday, March 5, 2004 9:15 PM

I Have tried to "disect" that pistol to find it's origin. I searched throughout "Jane's Guns" (not Jayne's Guns), "The Illustrated Encycopedia of Handguns", and "The Illustrated Book of Guns", and I still have no FREEKING idea what that is or could be or is made up of. It's really pissing me off!

Bona na Croin

RUSTYBOYROBOT

Saturday, March 6, 2004 1:28 AM

The reason i say it's a revolver, and a S&W at that is because of the scene at the beginning of heart of gold. As mal is cleaning his pistols and he whips the gun up, a small stop can be seen where the cylinder would swing out. This feature is almost exclusive to S&W model revolvers. The other reason i say S&W is because of the placement of the cylinder release.

Also the removal of the "clip" may just be cosmetic. It wouldn't be the first time in films

Deckards gun in blade runner appears to have a clip. Which it does because, the outside of that gun is a steyr mannckicher .222 rifle, but inside that housing is a charter arms bulldog .44 revolver.

Now what model revolver has yet to be seen.

Also a note on jaynes gun Notice that you never see him actually fire it. In my search i could not find one conversion kit for the lemat.

This site may be where the prop house got jayne's gun

http://www.navyarms.com/html/le_mat_rev.html

so mal's gun is a revolver, just with a lot of custom work.

RANGER

Sunday, March 7, 2004 3:56 AM

Ok, I took another look at the gun in question and have come to the conclusion that it is based on a Colt, but very heavily modified. It's not just a matter of removing the cylinder, but the entire section between the barrel and the pistol grip and trigger are probably custom work.

People who argue that it is based on a Colt Navy do so because of the overall length, but there is a couple of inches added to make room for the magazine well forward of the pistol grip, so that may account for the extra length.

The big question is how does it work. People who argue that it's a revolver probably think so because there are never any casings ejected when it fires (like an automatic). I have another possible answer though. It could use caseless ammunition. That would resolve a lot of the issues.

Just my thoughts

Traveller, if you go to Sparta, tell them you have seen us lying here as the Law commands.

RUSTYBOYROBOT

Sunday, March 7, 2004 4:46 AM

Actually i'm talking about the real prop. Not how it's suppose to work on the show.

MADJACK

Monday, March 8, 2004 2:42 PM

Looking at the frame it is definitely based on a revolver, but definitely NOT a Colt. With the sweaping curves of the rear of the frame and butt, it appears to be an early S&W or, more likely, a copy their of. BTW by early i mean something like the Scholfield

Bona na Croin

RUSTYBOYROBOT

Monday, March 8, 2004 4:00 PM

A schofield would of made more sense to me. top brake, easier to reload. JUst put some custom griops ala the trigun revolver, and there you go a practical cool looking prop.

Mal's could be a S&W model 1918. Just another thought to ponder.

RUSTYBOYROBOT

Sunday, March 28, 2004 2:23 AM

Mal's pistol was designed in computer and built using a 3d wax printer. Those parts were then investment cast in white bronze, polished and chemically blackened.
The .38 inside was a cheap taurus 5 shot snubnose. The grip was chopped off and replaced with a waterJet cut steel custom grip drawn in cad. The barrel was also chopped and a longer steel tube attached. This was shrouded by the bronze hex barrel.
The two projecting knobs facing forward were thumb screws that retained the side covers.
The guns are now at Gibbons armoury in Burbank. They are available for rental...

There might be a small picture of the cad file visable at this site---> www.appliedfx.com
Hope this is helpfull...

This comes directly from the company and the people behind the design and making of the pistol.

VETERAN

Sunday, March 28, 2004 2:49 AM

It looks like a revolver, but there is no cylinder.

THEFOP

Sunday, March 28, 2004 4:31 AM

in the game Rifts, New West suppliment, there's a whack of pistols made up to look like old revolvers, but with magazines as opposed to cylanders, and using different types of ammunition. I always assumed Mal's guns were like that.

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