How many other Trek fans here do not worship Wrath Of Khan?

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CHRISISALL

Friday, June 5, 2009 4:31 PM

It's not mine to press into you...

The laughing Chrisisall

ASARIAN

Friday, June 5, 2009 9:22 PM

I certainly don't worship the Wrath of Khan. Primarily, really, because I think Khan himself is somewhat of a laughable figure. The ridicuous and continual flaunting of his uncovered chest (rather silly for a man his age) was rather a turn-off; and being surrounded by a group of marooned B-actors didn't exactly help him, either. He was also too much the bad guy, sans any nuance. And for someone allegedly that smart, it didn't dawn on him that Kirk might have the transponder codes of his hijacked vessel, did it?

WOK was definitely not the worst one (that questionable honor goes to The Final Frontier). But worship? Hell, no! None of the initial 6 Star Trek movies really qualify for worship, IMHO. Thematically (though I think they could have done more with it even), I still think The Motion Picture was the best.

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"Mei-mei, everything I have is right here." -- Simon Tam

CHRISISALL

Friday, June 5, 2009 9:26 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by asarian:
Thematically (though I think they could have done more with it even), I still think The Motion Picture was the best.

My man.

The laughing Chrisisall

AURAPTOR

Friday, June 5, 2009 11:13 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by asarian:
I certainly don't worship the Wrath of Khan. Primarily, really, because I think Khan himself is somewhat of a laughable figure. The ridicuous and continual flaunting of his uncovered chest (rather silly for a man his age) was rather a turn-off; and being surrounded by a group of marooned B-actors didn't exactly help him, either. He was also too much the bad guy, sans any nuance. And for someone allegedly that smart, it didn't dawn on him that Kirk might have the transponder codes of his hijacked vessel, did it?

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"Mei-mei, everything I have is right here." -- Simon Tam

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CHRISISALL

Friday, June 5, 2009 11:15 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Not a Pro Wrestling fan, huh?

It took me a second, but I got it.

The laughing Chrisisall

SHINYGOODGUY

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 7:56 AM

Ok, WOK is one of my fav Star Trek original cast movies, along with 4 (actually I have 4 slightly ahead of WOK in that dept).

But I agree that we could have done without the my-long-lost-son subplot. And yes we also were subjected to the Overactors Anonymous school of overactors - Shatner and Montalban - but the rest was classic Trek.

1 (or as I like to call it: "V'ger Where Are You?") is such a yawner, it felt like it was 4 hours instead of the 2 hours and 12 minutes running time. All that to find out that they found a lost satellite from Earth (Kill me, kill me now).

Still though, the new Trek movie was really good, bordering on great. If I'm not mistaken Spock's father, in the middle of the movie, talks to him about Serenity. I will check this when it comes to DVD.

SGG

Tawabawho?

AURAPTOR

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 11:04 AM

Dunno why it never occurred to me before, but the whole premise that V'ger had some how traveled such great distances, found what ever intelligent life it had, and then amassed such power and wealth of information on the great civilization of the cosmos....simply holds now water.( Duh ) The thing simply isn't traveling that fast, nor anywhere NEAR the speed required to do so.

Star Trek prides itself w/ the 'believability' of its sci fi foundation, for the most part, but this major gap in that department.

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JONGSSTRAW

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 11:37 AM

I haven't seen the movie in years, but didn't V'ger crash on some planet populated by living machines? They repaired V'ger and gave it new enhanced capabilities necessary to fulfil its' original mission. That's how V'ger was able to amass the wealth of knowledge and experience that it did, if I remember correctly.

AURAPTOR

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 12:15 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
I haven't seen the movie in years, but didn't V'ger crash on some planet populated by living machines? They repaired V'ger and gave it new enhanced capabilities necessary to fulfil its' original mission. That's how V'ger was able to amass the wealth of knowledge and experience that it did, if I remember correctly.

Something like that, but then it was able to somehow waltz through the universe, gather alls sorts of information, all while not once crossing paths w/ anything from Earth, even though we'd since reached light speed technology. Point being, we'd have easily 'passed' Voyager by not long after we'd reached light speed. A few hundred yrs traveling at 40,000 mph ( roughly what Voyager is doing now ) wouldn't get it very far, galacticly speaking.

The T.Rex they call JANE!

JONGSSTRAW

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 1:13 PM

Again, drawing from my memory on this.....didn't V'ger disappear into a black hole which led it to the machine planet? That can explain much, especially if the intelligent machines that repaired it gave it worm hole or other trans-dimentional capabiltiies that we humans just cannot comprehend. Also I believe that all of Star Trek took place in just our own galaxy. I think V'ger went inter-galactic in its' journeys, which might help explain why it never encountered Earthlings before.

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