Ten Reasons Gay Marriage Is Wrong

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SIGNYM

Friday, May 1, 2009 3:00 PM

Same here. The guy I spoke with said just as much. MAYBE he was just rationalizing, but that's what he said. In fact, one of my lesbian friends said the same thing, only in her case it was abuse by a stepfather. It's often not nature VERSUS nurture but a combination of both, the exact balance is different in different people.

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We should have strapped him into a glider, filled it nose heavy w/ explosives, and dropped his Allah lovin' ass into a large, empty field. After which, release wild boars into the area so they could make good use of his remains. Now THAT's justice.- rappy

Yeah, that's what Sheikh Issa said. Seems you both have a lot in common.- signy

PHOENIXROSE

Friday, May 1, 2009 6:08 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
if you're doing it right... it probably SHOULD be a big screaming deal!

LOL!! Well yeah, but just to us

(...and possibly the neighbors...)

I think in the case of abused people "going gay" there's a bisexual tendency in the first place. Having that tendency gives them the option to turn away from whatever sex they feel wronged by. Had I been abused in such a way, it's very likely I would be skittish around men, and my natural attraction to women would have given me the option to not work through that skittishness in order to have a romantic life, causing me to identify as lesbian. That's the only way I could see it 'making' someone gay. But if someone truly has no such attraction, nothing will 'make' them. You can't make yourself sexually attracted to someone you're not attracted to, you can't chose who you love. If you could chose who you loved, the world might be a simpler place.
Most truly straight people, when faced with the question "Could you just start dating and sleeping with your own gender one day?" will stop arguing or insisting that it's a 'lifestyle choice' and start thinking that maybe it is just chemical reactions, the same as their relationships are. It makes some of them think about whether they have any attraction to their own sex, and whether that could be an option for them. It's very possible that victims of molestation examine all their options at an early stage and without such a question being posed, because not to do so could cause them great pain in their romantic and sexual life. I think that's why my guy doesn't get totally horrified at the idea of being with men, he's probably thought about it at some point in his life, but he does lack the inclination. I just don't like statements that 'abuse makes you gay' because it leads the unthinking masses down the path of believing that 1) every GLBT person is that way because of abuse and 2) that's proof it's an unnatural state of being. These things need to be examined beyond the surface, and FAR too many people are unwilling to do that, so I simply don't like giving them an essentially false surface to argue upon.
Hope that made some kind of sense.

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CHRISISALL

Friday, May 1, 2009 6:12 PM

Thanks, P.

The laughing Chrisisall

STORYMARK

Friday, May 1, 2009 6:23 PM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
A real sweet list there for sure. Send it to Barack Obama because he said many times he opposes gay marriage. Also send it to Bill Clinton because he signed the Defense of Marriage Act when he was in office. Hard to believe that such committed "liberals" would be against such a no-big-deal, slam-dunk issue.

No one is perfect.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

PHOENIXROSE

Friday, May 1, 2009 6:42 PM

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Originally posted by Geezer:
I was kind'a hoping that this would be an actual list by a gay marriage opponent so I could finally see what possible reasons they could have for being against gay marriage besides "Well, they're GAY."

Google up Orson Scott Card's essay on how gay marriage will destroy the world. Unless, of course, you want to be able to read any of his books ever again without a sick feeling in the pit of your stomach.

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SIGNYM

Friday, May 1, 2009 7:39 PM

Oh.

How can someone who seems so perceptive otherwise have such a big blind spot? I mean, hasn't he read "Speaker for the Dead"?

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We should have strapped him into a glider, filled it nose heavy w/ explosives, and dropped his Allah lovin' ass into a large, empty field. After which, release wild boars into the area so they could make good use of his remains. Now THAT's justice.- rappy

Yeah, that's what Sheikh Issa said. Seems you both have a lot in common.- signy

RUE

Friday, May 1, 2009 8:50 PM

http://www.ornery.org/essays/warwatch/2004-02-15-1.html

Here is a link to what I think you are talking about. Why would he write such an irrational, inaccurate piece ? It's hard for me to fathom ... unless he meant it to be an easy target ?

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KIRKULES

Friday, May 1, 2009 11:20 PM

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Originally posted by rue:
http://www.ornery.org/essays/warwatch/2004-02-15-1.html

Here is a link to what I think you are talking about. Why would he write such an irrational, inaccurate piece ? It's hard for me to fathom ... unless he meant it to be an easy target ?

I think he makes an excellent point about how the fight over Gay marriage is more about changing the meaning of words than anything else. If anyone now days feels slighted by the narrow definition of a word then we must change the meaning of the word or not use it to avoid harming their fragile sensibilities. It's just more irrational political correctness. Maybe we should change the meaning of heterosexual so nobody will feel left out.

That's one of the reasons I believe the term "Marriage" should be totally removed from laws regarding partnership between same sex or traditional couples. Let's give everyone equal rights without pretending that the bond between two of opposite sex is marriage. If they want to invent a new word that describes gay union, that's fine, but let's not change the meaning of existing words just for silly political correctness.

Once again I don't understand exactly what anyone could see wrong with this essay. There's nothing anti-gay about it in my opinion. Would someone please point out what I'm missing.

SIGNYM

Friday, May 1, 2009 11:37 PM

In principle I agree with you, but in practice.... The Federal government has about a zillion references to the word "marriage" just in the tax code alone. Then you get to Social Security and Medicare, immigration, etc. EACH STATE has its own "marriage" laws. Insurance companies also have about a zilion reference to marriage. Credit companies. Real estate laws. Its hard to think of an entity that DOESN'T refer to marriage at one point or another! Ferreting out all of those laws, policies, codes, pamphlets etc and changing each reference from "marriage" to "marriage or civil union" would be an almost impossible task.

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We should have strapped him into a glider, filled it nose heavy w/ explosives, and dropped his Allah lovin' ass into a large, empty field. After which, release wild boars into the area so they could make good use of his remains. Now THAT's justice.- rappy

Yeah, that's what Sheikh Issa said. Seems you both have a lot in common.- signy

NCBROWNCOAT

Friday, May 1, 2009 11:42 PM

My daughter, practical young person that she is, came up with the idea that everyone enter into "civil unions" with the ONE that you love and leave "marriage ceremonies" to the different religions and churches. I've come around to her idea.

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