Tea Party protesters are civil, bathed and decent.
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"Less, to no, taxes. You keep what you earn, AND the roads are still paved."
It's called fantasy-land.
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Quote:Get rid of government and leave the corporations alone? Shoot, man, corporations are the epitome of hypocrisy and cronyism. AND they absolutely want to rob you blind! That's the whole reason for their existance!
We want an end to the Fed, an end to corruption, an end to hypocrisy and cronyism.
If you start by getting rid of corporations then I'll help you get rid of government. Sound fair?
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How about we limit corporations AND the government? Both are necessary evils.
For now.
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Corporations are absolutely not necessary.
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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
"This is about hating a black man in the White House. This is racism, straight up. That is nothing but a bunch of tea-bagging rednecks. And there is no way around that."
And this is why I hate liberals.
So you hate them because... they hate YOU?
Tell me again how that somehow makes you better than them?
Mike
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Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
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"This is about hating a black man in the White House. This is racism, straight up. That is nothing but a bunch of tea-bagging rednecks. And there is no way around that."
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Who are you more proud of Rue? The low-life skank who said it, or the in-the-tank, one-sided propagandists at NBC, who once again embarass a once-respected news network by airing a delusional mental case like JG? I'll bet you're proud of both. Does she have any proof to support her assinine statements? Of course not. Like you, she just knows everything.
And who are YOU more proud of, Jongs? The low-life scumbag Dick Cheney, or the in-the-tank, one-sided propagandists at Fox, who once again embarrassed a never-respected news network by airing an "interview" with a delusional psychopath like Dick Cheney? I'll bet you're proud of both. Does he have any proof to support his asinine statements? Of course not. But like you, Jongsy, he just knows everything.
Your statement makes as much sense that way...
Mike
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I think Aristotle's quote is better translated not as "TOLERANCE is the virtue of a dying society," but "COMPLACENCY is the virtue of a dying society." The tolerance there refers not to tolerance or intolerance of marginalized groups, but to tolerance of the actions of the government, whatever those actions might be.
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Quote:Answer: It matters on a titantic level. The value of our fiat currency is worth only what the worldwide reserve believes it to be worth. We think that just because we've sat atop the world economy since our grandparents were kids that it will always be that way. Let me illistrate something.
Originally posted by bluesuncompanyman:Quote:You are trying to compare apples and oranges. The debt of the government is the supreme debt. There is no power higher to rely upon when a failure occurs. This is macroeconomics at it's most fundemental. Let me illistrate the ramifications of your different examples of groups wildly spending what they do not have.
Originally posted by SignyM:
Well, tell that to banks, investment firms, hedge funds, and businesses which exist on credit (either giving or receiving). Also tell that to average person who can't buy a house or car without credit.
1 person - Personal bankrupcy.
Small Business - Business bankrupcy with maybe 10-30 layoffs
Large Business - Same as above with hundreds of layoffs and impact on local economies
Megacorp - read the wiki entry for Enron
US government - Have you ever played Fallout?
The point is that the governments debt belongs to We The People. That's why the tea parties were held.Quote:On this I agree. It has existed as long as humanity has engaged in commerce. The East India Co. of the 18th century got itself in trouble several times in this fashion. One of the reasons the Tea Act of 1773 came about was because of croneyism twixt EIC and Parliment. The act was to serve in part to force monoply on EIC tea and at the same time tax it. The result would be certain tax revenue for England and forced sales of EIC tea to help provide that company with an 18th century "bailout". Unfortinately for EIC it was the tea itself that was "bailed out" into Boston harbor.
There is also a continuing misuse of credit, both for speculation AND as part of "monetary policy".Quote:
The question is: Does it even MATTER that the government creates a huge deficit? For example, did it matter that the government ran a HUGE deficit during the Great Depression and WWII? If not, why not? Would it matter TODAY?
The country that has the strongest economy on the world stage is said to be the "World's Reserve". As we speak it is the USA in that position, but that wasn't always so. Each century before proffered a nation who rose to that level because they out-thought the previous one:
17th century: Spain. Spain outflanked all of Europe by hording tangibles looted from the americas. By the close of the 1600's they had so much bling all their wealth was stored in silver and gold...the goal of the era.
18th century: Holland. The dutch understood trading on a level not seen since the ancient greeks. With their prowess at it they were able to found powerful banks and outflank spain's wealth which gravitated to them. This is shown in HBO's John Adams when Adams in in Holland seeking a loan of 10 million Dutch Guilders for the US. The Dutch currency was the strongest in the world at the time.
19th century: England. England learned from Dutch prosperity and outdid them by adding to it a military. The British army in the 19th century was the strongest in the world and lead to a global empire.
20th Century: The US. The states were the first nation to understand that wealth would be vested in the nation that grew in tech faster than the others. Throughout the 20th century the USA was on the crest of the Tech wave.
21st Century: Just because we are on top doesn't mean it will be that way much longer. I fear that China has out-thought us by methodically buying up our debt over many decades. The day will come when asian powers will dictate American Policy. We did it to the English. They did it to the Dutch.
Good answer! And you're right - we ARE in a prime position to lose our status as Number One, and the genius of the Chinese approach is that they've done this withou
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Originally posted by Bytemite:
I think Aristotle's quote is better translated not as "TOLERANCE is the virtue of a dying society," but "COMPLACENCY is the virtue of a dying society." The tolerance there refers not to tolerance or intolerance of marginalized groups, but to tolerance of the actions of the government, whatever those actions might be.
That sounds more like it. Now THAT is an idea I can get behind!
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"... we ARE in a prime position to lose our status as Number One ..."
It's a done deal. But somebody sure made a huge profit on it.
"A capitalist will sell you the rope to hang him with."
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